Question:
Is this a good breeder?
anonymous
2008-12-12 19:41:01 UTC
This is the website, if i got a puppy from her it would be shipped, but i don't know if i want to do that. If you have some extra time can you look at the website, and tell me if she seems like a good breeder.
thanks for the help!
http://www.puppyfind.com/redirect/?acct_id=2028&list_id=k7s68r9294
Sixteen answers:
anonymous
2008-12-13 00:27:26 UTC
No, NOT A GOOD BREEDER

NUMER 1; MORE THEN 2 BREEDS,

NUMBER 2; NO MENTION OF GENETIC TESTING-

NUMBER 3; NO MENTION OF 5 GENERATION PEDIGREE

NUMBER 4 NO SHOWING OF DOGS

Number 5; NEVER BUY A PUPPY WITHOUT SEEING IT IN PERSON!



1. NEVER buy a PUPPY younger then 8WEEK old!

They need to remain with the litter until that age to develope proper behavioural and socialiation skills



2. NEVER BUY A PUPPY just LOOKS, colour, looks, fur type alone-NO INDICATION OF DOGS TEMPERMENT! It takes time and patience to train any breed of dog to develope what we consider a well banced dog, puppies need lots of socialising with both people and animals and plenty of obedience trainning to also become well behaved pet.



3. Consider your lifestyle



4. Are you out more then 8hours a day



5. Consider your energy requirements, Size, Grooming.





6. Don't just buy because someone says this is the dog for you, people particular on yahoo answer will give you there particular favourite breed& what suits them, not what actually suit you.



7. Read all you can-THERE are alot of false information on the web and in books about different dog breed.



8. DON'T TRUST THOSE DOG BREED SELECTORS-MOST OF THE RESULTS ARE INCORRECT. Ex i search large breed dogs, and the Pomeranian came up, which of cause is a toy dog breed!!



9. NEVER BUY A TOY/SMALL BREED DOG FOR CHILDREN UNDER 8YRS OLD, However, toy/small breeds are best suited to children 10yr+, Most shelters will only rehome toy/small breed if the children are 10yrs+, Also toy/small breeds are extremely fragile and children cannot help being clumsy, remember a toy/small breed dog could be injured or killed by accidently dropping them on the patio, also they can be killed by jumping from the couch, etc.



10. Never BUY A DOG, CAT, BIRD OR RABBIT OR GUINEA PIG AS CHRISTMAS, BIRTHDAY, NEW YEAR'S DAY OR ANY SPECIAL DAY, AS MANY PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME, PATIENCE TO TRAIN OR LOOK AFTER A PET, ALSO MANY PEOPLE RENTING, LANDLORD'S DON'T ALLOW PETS.



11. NEVER BUY FROM A PETSTORE, BACKYARD BREEDER, PUPPY MILL OR NEWSPAPER, DON'T BUY FROM NEXT DAY PETS OR DOG BREED INFO, RESCUE AN ADULT DOG OR SHELTER PUPPY!



12. Are you willing to give up holidays to care and train and socialize your pup until its old enough to stay home around 1yr old on its own, with someone coming by to check on it, feed and water and walk it and play with it?



13. REMEMBER UNLIKE PIECES OF CLOTHING THAT CAN BE THROWN AWAY, DOGS ARE LIVING ANIMALS AND CANNOT BE DISPOSED OFF, IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR A DOG 5 YEAR OLD TO ACTUAL BE REHOMED, DOGS 7YEARS AND OVER VERY RARELY FIND A NEW HOME THAT THEY DESERVE, THEY ARE PUT DOWN DUE TO NOT ENOUGH HOMES AND ALSO BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED TOO OLD. IF YOU DO THINK OF MOVING EVEN LONGTERM FUTURE, ALWAY WHEN POSSIBLE TO TAKE YOUR DOG WITH YOU. IT IS UNNECCESS TO DUMP A DOG IN A SHELTER, JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE MOVING, EVEN IF YOU ARE MOVING OVERSEAS.



IF YOU MUST BUY A DOG FROM A BREEDER, THEN ONLY GET IT FROM A RELIABLE BREEDER IF YOU PLAN TO SHOW YOUR DOGS, THAT TESTS FOR EYES, HIP & ELBOW SCORES



Eyes

Most breeds require eye checks of some sort, for a variety of problems. These include, but are not limited to problems such as



* Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA). This disease eventually causes total blindness. In some breeds the onset is quick, before the dog is two or three. In others, the onset is much later, when the dog is four to eight years old (and may have already been bred). Irish Setters have a test available that can detect carriers and affected dogs; other breeds do not have this recourse. It appears to be a simple autosonomal recessive, but the late onset complicates breeding programs. If a dog is affected, then both parents are either carriers or also affected.

* Retinal Dysplasia. Causes eventual blindness. This is believed to be hereditary. Some dogs can be detected with this condition in puppy hood, but carriers cannot be identified until they produce such puppies.

* Collie Eye Anomaly (CEA). This affects the collie breeds (bearded, border, rough, smooth) as well as some closely related ones. This condition has varying degrees of severity from hardly affected to blind; the problem is that this disease is inherited and two hardly affected dogs may easliy produce a severely affected dog.

* Cataracts. There are many forms and causes for cataracts, but some forms, such as juvenile cataracts, are inherited and such dogs should not be bred.

* Entropion, Ectropion: These are conditions in which the eyelids turn in or out, causing various problems and often pain for the dog.



The Canine Eye Registry Foundation (CERF) in the USA registers dogs that are found to be clear of eye problems by a board certified (AVCO) veterinarian. Dogs need to be cleared yearly as there are some types of eye problems that show up later in life.



Hip and joints

There are a variety of joint problems found in most breeds. Toy breeds can have joint problems too; just because your breed is smaller doesn't mean you can figure you are free of hip dysplasia and be done with it. There are several problems that specifically affect smaller dogs!



* Hip dysplasia is probably the best known problem. This is a malformation or deterioration of the hip joint, so that the socket it sits in is too shallow to secure the head of the femur. As the condition progresses, arthritic changes begin to destroy the protective cartilage and the dog may experience severe pain if the condition is bad enough. Some dogs are asymptomatic, but still should not be bred. This condition primarily affects the medium-to-large breeds, but smaller breeds have been known to be affected, for example Cocker Spaniels and Shetland Sheepdogs can have this problem. To make sure your dog is free of hip dysplasia, you need to have the hips radiographed and then obtain an expert analysis of the xrays. Your vet isn't necessarily the one to do this! In the US, you would mail the xrays to the Orthopedic Foundation of Animals and wait several weeks for their evaluation. In Canada, Europe and Britain, there are equivalent programs, but all differ in the type of certification and age at which they will certify; some organizations certify after one year of age, others certify after two years of age.

* Osteochondrosis Dessicans (OCD) is an elbow joint problem. A bone spur or a flake wears away at the joint which becomes stiff and painful. Xray evaluations of these joints are also needed. Many breeds that are prone to hip dysplasia may also have OCD.

* Patellar Luxation is a problem affecting the kneecaps. Smaller dogs are more prone to this problem than larger ones are. The kneecap will slide out of place and lock the leg straight. Diagnosis is fairly straightforward and surgery can correct the problem, but no dog with patellar luxation should be bred as this is also an hereditary condition.



Other things to consider when buying from a registered breeder

Other things to check for



* In some breeds, deafness is a potential problem. Puppies at risk should be BAER tested and any that fail should be neutered.

* Heart conditions in many breeds must be checked for. Subaortic stenosis (SAS), other malformations of the heart or valves.

* Hemophilia type of problems, e.g., von Willebrand's disease and others.

* Malabsorptive syndromes, digestive problems.

* Epilepsy.

* Allergies.



If you only want a pet, go and adopt a loving puppy or shelter adult! there in shelters through NO fault of their own.
angel
2016-05-30 03:58:06 UTC
I would buy from a hobby breeder, and, from the description that you have given, I have. My breeding Mentors are a couple that lives about 45 minutes away from where I live. They have 3 bitches, though they are planning on getting a ***** from Germany this summer- the Vom Hause Wagner line. They have one dog(male), too, and currently are raising a litter of 10 great dane puppies. That's the thing- they are good reputable breeders, they could only be better if I could only convince them to take their dogs to the show. They get all of the needed health testing done (don't ask me, I'm only 13 so I don't know) and next week they are taking about 4 of their co-owned dogs to the vet for hip dypsplasia testing. On the other hand, all but one of their "pack" of great danes come from Poland, France, or Germany and have champion grandparents and parents. These dogs are very beautiful and sturdy and muscular. They are the most beautiful body shape and an awsome steel blue with no white- but their body forms are quite a bit different than american danes. So, they would most likely not place well in an American show; they would have to go to another country to get the places they deserved, and of course that will not matter to the AKC. So look at it anyway you want, but here is my opinion; some breeders may be very responsible but not as well known because they do not show their dogs. These dogs may not do well in Amercian shows, but it does not change the "hobby breeders" quality of dogs.
Cavalier KCS mom
2008-12-12 22:31:44 UTC
I would not purchase a puppy from this website or person. When i looked at their website they don't say anywhere that they do any kind of genetic health testing on their dogs. Nor do they show their dog to be proven Champions conforming to the AKC standards.



This is an example of a good reputable breeder. On this website it will show examples of what to look out for with breeders advertising on the internet. You'll need to scroll down towards the middle of the page to find the list...

http://www.mayfieldcavaliers.com/
M W
2008-12-12 20:03:59 UTC
There are many good breeders out there. However the first Red Flag that I see is that this Breeder breeds several different Breeds of dog. I personally feel that a breeder should devote his time to the betterment of the breed of choice. Too many choices here for my liking.
.
2008-12-12 19:55:36 UTC
No they are not...to many breeds, to many litters at once, advertising on puppyfind, selling puppies online, no mention of heath testing, showing, other titles, breeding so sort of "designer" mix. Start your search for a responsible Sheltie breeder here http://www.assa.org/breeders.html
anonymous
2008-12-12 19:48:57 UTC
I wouldn't touch them...



No health testing done on their dogs

No titles on their dogs

Poor quality backyard bred dogs

LOUSY health guarantee (half of it details how they won't be responsible for this or that)

No requirement for return if the puppy doesn't work out



What on earth??? "If your puppy should die of any genetic problems, an autopsy from a state veterinary lab is required for replacement or refund of the puppy’s price." I've never even HEARD of a state veterinary lab... and I've been in dogs for most of my life.



She has a group of 10++ year old b*tches that she is placing... apparently she's done breeding them now.
2008-12-12 19:48:31 UTC
I'd steer clear of that breeder.



They breed 5 completely different breeds.

One of those breeds is a mutt.



I'd like to see a 5 generation pedigree.

I see no pedigrees.
Chica Bonita
2008-12-12 20:02:50 UTC
you will have no idea unless you go to the place yourself to look around. if the dogs are kept in small cages or kennels i would not buy from them. i'm sorry, but people who have dogs in cages all the time or outside runs/kennels and breed their dogs only care about the money. if you cared about your dogs they would be in your home being loved and being treated like a family member, not a money machine.
Aussies Kita A-BOB!
2008-12-12 19:45:16 UTC
NO. Way to many puppies and way to many different breeds. This is a puppy mill for sure.



You need to look for a website that is more about brags than about selling dogs.



Which of these breeds were you looking for? I may be able to post some better resources for you to look at.
alias boxer
2008-12-12 20:38:33 UTC
A good rule of thumb: ALL breeders that list on puppyfind.com are backyard breeders and puppy mills. ALL of them.
Landlord
2008-12-12 20:19:10 UTC
NO. Look at how many bitches she presently is selling liters from! This is so sad!
Me and Dee
2008-12-12 19:46:08 UTC
i don't think you should get a pup off of the interent too many bad things happen.
S D
2008-12-12 19:52:06 UTC
Get the animal spayed immediately too many morons breeding animals there is know one to care for
Sara
2008-12-12 19:48:59 UTC
it looks pretty legit. but dont know for sure... just because someone breeds alot of different breeds doesnt make them a puppy mill.... i know the people who own the website www.petclassifieds1.com they use to be an animal shelter but they take excellent care of all their dogs... trust me... i've seen it with my own two eyes.
kitani_stud
2008-12-13 00:37:07 UTC
No way. BAD 'BREEDER'.
berner mom
2008-12-12 19:56:34 UTC
When in doubt, don't....


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