Does this look like a good breeder?

Question

I am going to get a standard poodle, and I wanted to know if this looks like a good breeder.
http://www.puppyfind.com/redirect/?acct_id=249884&list_id=2yqg75e4yw

And of course I'll visit the site, I want to if it will be worth the trip up to Maryland. Thanks!

Answer 1

I don't know that much about standards. I have 3 toys and I maintain the websites for 8 well respected toy poodle breeders.



First of all, many excellent breeders do in fact advertise on puppyfind.com. That doesn't mean that all the breeders on there are respectable. You will unfortunately also find byb and puppymills advertising on there.



I see that the breeder does breed parti-colors. At one time that was a dead give away for poor quality but not anymore. With the UKC accepting parti-colors, there are more breeders who are breeding good quality parti-color poodles. However, registration with the CKC (continental club) generally is NOT a good sign. Stick with aAKC and UKC registrations. Also, I see they are using a white/cream with a pink nose for breeding which is not acceptable in the poodle standard. White/cream poodles should have black noses.



If you can find people who actually know this breeder that would be good but the best thing is if you can actually go to the breeder and see the parents as well as the condition of her dogs as well as the condition the dogs are kept in.



You will definitely want to ask the breeder for references and ask what testing they have done.

Answer 2

Number 1; NO, Puppy find is a Puppy mill, backyard breeder and Irresponsible breeder haven. Puppy find is NOT reptuable breeder website



Number 2;No reptuable breeder will have Both American Kennel Club and Continental Kennel Club regsitrations(CKC-which is what this breeder is refering too.



Number 3; No genetic health testing, no show champions, breeds dogs younger then 2years old.

Newspaper and online websites such as these are NOT reputable breeders. Examples of bad dog breeders websites are

http://www.oodle.com/sale/pet/dog/

http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites

http://www.sell.com/cx/801/pets-animals/

http://www.buysell.com/brand/buysell/splash.aspx

http://www.ozfreeonline.com/

http://www.stumblehere.com/

http://www.puppyfind.com/

http://www.breederinfocenter.com/

http://www.greatdogsite.com/breeders/

http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/breeders/

Penny Saver





Number 4; what to look for in a good breeder

So I should breed when...?

The only reason you should be breeding is that you honestly feel that you are improving your breed by doing so. There are far too many dogs in the country to breed without good reason. A dog in a breeding program must be one whose genetic history you or its breeder is intimately familiar with. Such a dog must represent the best efforts of its breeder at that point. Such a dog must have good points to contribute, whether that is in good conformation, good performance or whatever. Such a dog must have some evidence of external evaluation. That is, others besides the breeder or the owner must also think that the dog is a good representive of its breed. That usually translates into titles, whether for conformation, obedience, field, herding, or whatever is appropriate for that breed. Such a dog must be tested as it matures for any problems that tend to appear in its breed, whether that is hip dysplasia, patellar luxation, von Willebrand's, cataracts, PRA, fanconi syndrome, subaortic stenosis, etc.



Poodles can be a bit tempermental with kids,Poodles are known for being snappy, however the standard poodles are the best for young children, if you must have a poodle and contrary to popular believe, poodles do shed, its just the shed hairs get trapped in the curls, so very little hair/fur gets transfered to the dogs environment.



Please adopt and save a life! Rather then buy from a breeder.

http://www.petfinder.com/

http://www.raot.org/information/10_reasons_to_adopt_an_older_dog.htm

www.co.winnebago.il.us/AdvHTML_Uploads/fileUploads/MythsAboutShelterDogs.pdf



How to find a good breeder.

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_adoption_information/how_to_find_a_good_dog_breeder/



red flagged breeders

http://dogs.about.com/cs/generalcare/a/breeder_flags.htm

http://www.petstorecruelty.org/

Answer 3

No No No and HELL NO



From their contract : Under no conditions and at no time during the life of the dog will SELLER pay or assist in paying veterinary expenses after the dog is purchased, including any such expense directly or indirectly related to any inheritable/genetic defects.



Go find a breeder through the poodle club - Partis are not accepted by the breed club OR the AKC just the UKC. None of their adults are champions, just have champion lines. You can find a better class of breeder here



http://www.poodleclubofamerica.org/breederref.htm

Answer 4

No don't make the trip,you can find a poodle where you live and not from a puppy mill.The puppy's can look all cute and adorable but what they don't show you is where the mom gave birth to themmThese are filthy dirty wire cages that the mom and dad have to stand on till their paws are bleeding..Their fur is all mated and they are very sick and skinny.The worse part is that they have to live outside in the cold and heat and never any human contact..They are only there to breed not out of love.Please rethink this and please look into a private breeder or a poodle rescue that will be up to date on shots and be spayed or neutered and been vet checked..Please

Answer 5

Bob (the first responder) is mostly right.

No reputable breeder would be on puppyfind.



However, the CKC has two meanings. One club is called Continental kennel club and the other Canadian kennel club. The first is NOT a reputable club however the second one IS. Be sure to verify which one they are refering to.

Answer 6

"If the dog develops hip dysplasia or genetic defects within 12 months from the date of birth, BUYER may return the dog to the SELLER for a replacement puppy of equal quality, selected by the SELLER, if and when the SELLER has the next litter of puppies. "



Some genetic problems are not noticeable OR able to be diagnosed until two years of age - thats 24 months. So they're a year short on long-term health guarantee....



No health testing done - i know because they're listing dogs up for stud at a year old when health testing can only be done at two years of age.



No titles in Show or Working, which means pet quality with questionable health backgrounds.



I would walk right on by them.

Answer 7

There is no real listing of health testing on the site that I found. "OFA/ Genetic Testing has been done on her all is good" doesn't mean anything, OFA now acts as a registry for lots of anomalies. No mention of eye testing for prcd is mentioned at all (the ratings for that are not "good" they are "pattern a, b or c").



The contract is meaningless, they are guaranteeing nothing in their pups. Contact the Poodle Club of America for referral to a REPUTABLE breeder in your area please!

Answer 8

Personally, I wouldn't buy there.



Let me give you a link to the Poodle Club of America. There is a lot of information on this website.

Answer 9

hint. no reputable breeder advertises on puppyfind.com



and no reputable breeder uses the ckc. ckc is a sham registry that only back yard breeders and puppy millers use.

Answer 10

Not really. If the pups are registered with the AKC, why would they even want to register with the CKC. (Continental) That is a turn off from the start, for me.

Answer 11

No poodles are not very good family dogs they dont do a good job around kids are babys

Answer 12

things to look for in a good breeder.



http://www.petgateway.ca/info/selectingbreeder.php