Question:
Is it true that all dog breeds that exist now are actually mixed breeds? If so, why are there some crazies on?
Owned by a Bichon
2010-01-14 12:21:52 UTC
here who hate mixed breeds so much and call them all kinds of names? It's so silly. So my research of some "pure"-breds has shown that they have actually come from two different breeds that were mixed. Is this true of all the popular "pure"-bred dogs?
Fourteen answers:
What.. EVER
2010-01-14 18:56:21 UTC
I do know what you mean about the crazed anti-mixed breed people on here. I am not sure that all dog breeds we have today came from mixes though. But yes many of the purebreds have come from mixes. The reason some hate mixed breeds is because they are old-fashioned. In the future a Bichon-poo and a Goldendoodle will be recognized breeds. It's bound to happen. They may get another name which will appeal more to the purebred snobs group of people but they will be recognized. But I do not believe that dogs came from wolves. I believe that wolves were created and dogs were created. Just because a wolf's body make up is similar to dogs doesn't mean they are one and the same. Wolves are wild animals, dogs are domestic animals. But as for the purebred dogs we know today, many are likely mixes. In the 18th century rich people owned certain types of breeds and mixed breeds would usually be for street people because they happen to occur by street dogs from different breeds. Mutt is a derogatory term. It is used by people who hate dogs. And many on here hatefully call mixed breed dogs Mutts in a derogatory way. Anyway, it all goes back to rich snobs who would never posess a dog that would have been thought to be a street dog including mixed breeds. Recently, thanks to the media, those in the show dog world have been exposed. Pedigree dogs exposed has shown what the UKC and AKC standards have done to some breeds. And it's not pretty. They have been purposely bred to look a certain way which is completely unnatural. Rather than trying to perfect a dog breed for HEALTH, some have tried to perfect a dog in their own greedy mind in a way in which to make them look a certain way at the cost of causing detrimental effects on dogs' health such as: breathing problems, hip displasia, and neurological problems which have caused excruciating pain to dogs. Because of the brave people who have exposed this, the UKC has had to change some of it's standards for purebreds. Unfortunately more breed standards need to be adjusted but may not be until they are again forced to change the standards. Money talks for these people. And some breeders or purebreds are innocent. They are fooled into thinking that the UKC and AKC standards are best for the breed, when often times they are not. And they continue breeding them that way and thus continue the line of harmful effects on certain breeds.



Anyway, you are correct in your research that some purebred dogs are actually mixed breeds and owning a purebred dog does not make the owner any better than another person who owns a mixed breed dog.
12345
2010-01-14 17:08:45 UTC
Keep doing your research. Research entails looking at the issue from all angles, in this case, not just from the anti-purebred view.

First, look up the definition of purebred. It does not say that a purebred dog was never mixed.



In case you can't be bothered, here is the definition of "purebred"

(Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Breeds) denoting a pure strain obtained through many generations of controlled breeding for desirable traits

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/purebred



Dogs that were once mixed were selectively bred over many generations for desired traits with a specific goal in mind. They eventually "breed true", that is consistantly produce a those traits without having to go back to the original breeds. When you breed a German Shepherd (one of those breeds that were once mixed, actually with more than one different type) to a German Shepherd, you get a known set of characteristics that will appear. THAT is a purebred, not a dog that was never mixed.

Not to mention these breeds were mixed to produce a dog with specific traits for a specific purpose. They were not randomly created breeds to make money, they had a purpose, usually a working one. What is the function of a Labradoodle? it was intended to be a hypoallergenic service dog, but that was not successful.



With these "designer dogs" you do not have a reliable set of characteristics that appear. They are mixed breeds and do not breed true. Many of these breeders will not breed past the first or second generations, meaning they will never breed true.

Check out the variations in only coats in Labradoodles here

http://www.acmecreekkennels.com/Acme%20Creek%20Labradoodles/labradoodle_coat_types.htm



That is not even mentioning any other trait, like size, temperment, drive, color, etc.

Check out the variations in looks, size, etc

http://www.acmecreekkennels.com/Acme%20Creek%20Labradoodles/labradoodle_gallery.htm



Now go look up any recognized breed, here are some German Shepherds and see the difference.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/565016.html



And no one here hates mixed dogs (well maybe one person). I, like so many others love all dogs. Many here own mixed dogs. What we hate is breeding intentionally, calling it a cutsey name and charging a fortune when the same mix is dying in a shelter.



Add- just for reference, GSDs are a relatively new breed, which came about in the early 1900s.

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Being a purebred and being recognized by the AKC are two completely different things. There are many breeds that are true breeding, ie purebred, that are not recognized by the AKC, some are recognized by other reputable registries.

AKC is not the supreme being.
Eilean Ban
2010-01-14 12:46:36 UTC
Ughhh...here we go AGAIN.



First off, not all breeds we're created by mixing breeds. There are some breeds that don't seem to have been ever mixed with other breeds. Swedish Vallhunds, Greyhounds, and many others come to mind,



Second, when creating a new breed, it is done with a purpose in mind. Take for instance, the Doberman Pinscher. When Louis Doberman wanted to create the ultimate personal protection dog, he mixed in breeds that would help the dog's working ability. And then over time, he quit out crossing with other breeds and started just breeding Doberman to Doberman until they bred true (where they all came out looking consistantly the same). That's how a breed is formed.



But these so called "designer dogs" are just 2 purebred dogs bred together because "the puppies would be oh so cute!" which is NOT a legitimate excuse to crossbreed dogs. And breeding any dog to a poodle will not guarantee hypoallergenic puppies, due to the laws of genetics. So there goes the excuse of creating hypo allergenic puppies.



And we don't hate mutts! I own a mutt--a Foxhound mix, who I ADORE and who I got from the only place you should EVER get a mutt: the shelter! What we hate are people who intentionally create more mutts,that don't really have a purpose (being cute companions doesn't count, because there are tons of those in shelters), when there are already millions of mutts dying in shelters. Yes there are purebreds dying in shelters too, but reputable purebred breeders are at least breeding with a purpose in mind--whether it's to breed sound working dogs (because lets face it, most shelter dogs don't have the ideal temperament to be working dogs), or to improve the structure an health of a breed.
Aphrodite ☼
2010-01-14 12:46:22 UTC
CLEARLY every breed of dog had to come from somewhere. I don't really understand what your point is in regards to that. These purebred dogs were made with a purpose in mind.

Difference between a mutt and a purebred is that a purebred has breeding standards so all of the dogs of that breed look the same, have the same traits etc. except maybe colour.

A mutt has NO guarantee on a trait or their appearance because they have no standards - so for example a Lab/Poodle mix - some of the puppies will inherit the traits of a Lab while some of them will inherit the traits of a Poodle and not all of the puppies will actually look the same. They will be all over the spectrum.



AND NOBODY hates mutts. Nobody calls them all sorts of names, they call them what they are - mutts, mixed, mongrel etc.

People don't like the people that breed them, give them some ridiculous name like a Labradoodle and then sell them for hundreds of dollars just to line their greedy pockets with money. These dogs will have no health standards let alone breed standards. They also have no purpose whatsoever.



Yes some purebreds aren't bred well either - but if you get one from a reputable breeder that does all the genetic testing they need to do to ensure quality dogs...they beat any dog hands down.
Fadin Reigne
2010-01-14 12:51:19 UTC
OKAY: So beyond the pat answers which seem to be the norm for allot of you folks. Try this on for size. Lets pick a breed first, uhm Walker Coon Hound. There is a breed with a purpose even if they are a mixed.



We got 2 different kinds of PUREBRED Walkers. One is tricolor, generally with a white base coat. The other is black and tan. Canada's Sporting Dog Kennel Club recognizes both kinds, the U.S. AKC only black and tans. So clearly they are the same dog.



Walkers reportedly were bred from an English Fox Hound (belonging to Gen. George Custer) and an Blood Hound in TN in the 1800's by a man named Thomas Walker. How many times these 2 dogs were crossed with different dogs to get the modern Walker. Do-No. But the point is that most original breeds such as the ancient Japanese Tosa have died out from cross breeding. And that yes most "breeds" of dogs are indeed crossbreeds of something else.



Side-note: I do-no about on here, but I too have met people who hate Mutz and think they should all be destroyed.
di
2010-01-14 12:32:12 UTC
Yes it is true. The true canine is a wolf. Everything else has been selectively bred for specific purposes or looks, etc. The great dane was originally a cross of mastiff and greyhound. Many people on this site are very young and believe they know it all. Others are just misinformed. Breeders, even current ones, spend years selectively breeding their crosses to attain a stable "true" breed. This takes generations of dogs before the breed is showing enough stability to become AKC registerable breeds.
Highbread Dingbat
2010-01-14 12:29:56 UTC
Nobody on here hates mutts. So I have no idea where all you people are getting that from.



Yes, our purebreds today were once mixed in order to create them. However this occurred as far as CENTURIES ago. Purebreds today are called such because they breed true. You breed two golden retrievers together and you're going to get a golden retriever. You breed 2 separate breeds together and you could end up with any combination of traits.

And the reason that these breeds became breeds is because they were bred for a PURPOSE. Random designer mutts of today are bred for the sole purpose of making money.



The word mutt/mongrel/cur is NOT derogative, it is a perfectly acceptable term. These moronic "designer names" are more of an insult to the dog than the word mutt.
☆ Memphis Belle ☆
2010-01-14 17:53:36 UTC
It's not the case at all that recognized purebred breeds are mutts & here is the reason why.



Toy breeds aside, the driving force behind the creation of a breed was functional necessity for a dog to do a particular type of work. As an example I will use my breed of choice, the Dobermann that was created to work closely with its handler as a personal protection dog.



Herr Dobermann did indeed begin by choosing various breeds with characteristics & temperaments that were suited to his purpose, but had a blueprint in his mind of the type of dog he wanted to create.



It was not the work of a moment & took knowledge & many years of careful breeding by selecting the dogs that were closest to the idea type he had in mind & culling {removing from the gene pool}, those that weren't, that enabled him to refine dogs of his breeding.



Eventually when the parents, grand parents, great grandparents & great great grandparents ect, were genetically predictable in terms of appearance, characteristics,temperamentt & working drives, he could say he was on the right path to creating a new breed, the Dobermann.
Truth Hurts, Doesn't It?
2010-01-14 12:33:15 UTC
*sigh*



This is where ACTUAL research helps solidify an argument.



No. Dog breeds today are not mixed breeds. Yes, they started as "mutts" but the animals bred then where CHOSEN specifically for traits and for health, so as to eventually breed "true" and get all dogs to be the same. Meaning you could breed two dogs of that "breed" and get puppies with the same (or very similar) traits.



Mutts being bred today are being bred for PROFIT or FUN. No end result is objectified and there is no "breeding true" in that field. PERIOD.



Purebred dogs today breed true as was the intent when they where first created.



And nobody HATES mixed breed dogs. We just HATE that people are purposely breeding them for fun/profit when thousands are being killed in shelters. People breeding mutts (and even some people breeding purebred dogs) are not doing so with the pups or dogs in mind - meaning they don't health test or breed HEALTHY specimens.
2010-01-14 12:29:43 UTC
Try doing at least SOME research, before you post a question



There are purebred dogs, that were bred through generations, have a purpose, breed true, etc...



Then there are mutts...and no one has a problem with those, they have always been around (I own one). They have NO purpose, bred by accident



Then there are "designer" so-called breeds, which are also MUTTS, but are bred ON PURPOSE, by ignorant and money hungry idiots...that try to pass those off as real purebred dogs. Which they are not...for SOOO many reasons...main one being, is that they have NO PURPOSE. NONE..ZERO...ZILCH
santa babyy.
2010-01-14 12:37:13 UTC
Nobody here hates mutts/mongrels/heinz 57's/"accidents"/etc.

I've had 3, and I have a shelter Pomeranian who isn't breed standard. Yet I'm a strong supporter of never breeding them, for various reasons people are posting.

Give me a link saying somebody hates mutts, and even if you find one, they're a minority.

You're so silly.
Cyrus
2010-01-14 12:32:48 UTC
yes, because they all originated from a set of different breeds (just ilke how all humans origninated from one mother), and they all eventually mixed so badly, that u cant tell if there's an independent breed...breed mixing started a long-long time ago so, the actual appearance faded time by time....an unexplained dog is called a mut, a smaller version of an unexplained mixed breed of a small dog (usually looks like a little boxer) is called a pug (man in black lol)...pugs are so common, they became a type lol...



long story short, they're technically no independent breeds at all...
2010-01-14 12:46:49 UTC
well i think it took 2 diffrent breeds to make a purebred and it took 2 other breeds to make the dogs , that made the purbred . But really i dont know..
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2010-01-14 12:27:06 UTC
well ya no dog is a real "pure breed". they are all decendants of wolfes.but thats like way back so idk how you would classify that.


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