Question:
My dog HATES to have his nails cut: he pees, poops, bites, scratches. Groomer won't take him, vet is exp help
anonymous
2007-12-10 17:41:02 UTC
The groomers won't work with him anymore and the vet has to sedate him everytime. Last nail trimming was $50. Any suggestions would be great!
21 answers:
Paul and Kelle A
2007-12-10 17:49:53 UTC
You could see about getting your dog a sedative in the form of a pill in which you could give him before taking him into the vets/groomer for a nail trim to see how it goes. Most vets are good about giving these to try to help out, especially if they have seen how your dog acts after having the nails trimmed. I would discuss it more with your vet and it would be alot cheaper to have them on-hand before bringing him into the vet than taking him in and them having to sedate him. Good Luck!!
autumn wolf
2007-12-10 17:53:47 UTC
I can relate to that, I use to work for a dog groomers and kennel, and its not unusual for dogs to dislike having their nails cut. Even the best of them are very temperamental when it comes to this! We have a very sweet English Bulldog, that has the best disposition except when it comes down to cutting her nails. I cant find a groomer or vet to do it! I get my husband to hold her, while I cut her nails myself. She is so bad, that we only do one foot at a time. Sometimes we only do one foot a day. When we are done though, we say good girl, and give her a biscuit. We don't want her to resent the experience anymore than she already does. My dogs nails are white, so it is easier to see where the veins are, but if your dogs are black, that would be hard. Some groomers muzzle the dog when they cut the nails if there is a problem. It certainly is a problem, I agree! All it takes is just one time if they get the nail cut too close, to resent the experience altogether. You may want to call around and ask the advice of different vets, although they probably will all suggest that you give him a tranquilizer before bringing him in. Hope Ive helped some. Good luck!
anonymous
2016-03-16 01:08:01 UTC
Desensatize is the only thing you can do. Give treats AS your cutting as well. And not just when your going to cut his nails. Always treat when you go to cut a new nail. OR you could be cutting and as you cut have someone else treat as your doing it. That way the dog is getting a good thing while doing something he hates. That should help. also have someone else pet him if he doesn't try to bite, wait until he's doing good for a while with the treats first though. Good luck.
Aunt Karen
2007-12-10 17:59:27 UTC
We don't have a lot of suitable walking surfaces for natural nail trimming around here either. Once a dog gets trimmed too close, they will always be (at least) nervous about trimming. My pit bull only lets me or her vet trim her nails. Try retraining him. Start by just handling his paws. Check his nails one by one - but do nothing more. Do this every day, maybe even twice, until he is comfortable with you handling his paws, and inspecting his claws. (You may want to start outside if he's going to poop!) Then start using a girls card board Emmery board. You can get a 5 or 10 pack for about a dollar at any drugstore. Drag the file across only the longest claw he has. Once he lets you do this, work on filing one paw each day. Eventually his nails will only need filing once a month, unless you have more road or sidewalk time. Good luck.
anonymous
2007-12-11 11:52:32 UTC
Your dog is terrified, it's that simple. By using counter conditioning and desensitization you can help your dog feel better about having his paws handled. You can start by gently touching your dog's paws when he's in a very comfortable place, maybe sitting on your lap or getting pet. Reward your dog whenever you touch his paws. Bring out the clipper and reward the dog for sniffing it. You take the process of having nails clipped and break it down into pieces, getting the dog used to the pieces and rewarding with high value rewards. It takes time and patience but if it's going to save you $50 a pop, it may be worth it to you. You could also find a place with asphalt to take your dog to run around. My dogs have worn their nails down to the quick chasing balls in a local tennis court.



If your dog has had the quick cut before he's going to be especially reluctant to take that risk again. You can learn about counter conditioning at



www.fearfuldogs.com



You might also do a search on youtube for a great video of a woman clicker training a dog to have its nails clipped. Not sure of the exact location, but try a combination of those terms on youtube search.
anonymous
2007-12-10 18:37:35 UTC
I agree with Owl..sounds like a Min Pin!



Anyhow...you really just need to work with him and hopefully he will get use to it.

You can try a dremel, but some dogs just hate to have their feet even touched, so that may not work.

The only option I can think of is to walk him alot on the concrete. I know you said he is afraid of everything, but he is just going to have to get use to it. It's going to take time and alot of patience and work on your part, but he has to get over things. Is your driveway blacktopped? Walk him around on that.



Do you know how to cut nails? Are his nails white so you are able to see the kwik easily? The only other thing I can think of is for you to try. I had a Rottie that hated her nails done. Took 3 of us to hold her down and I still couldnt get them done. So I would do the sneak attack on her....when she was sleeping, I would sneak up with the nail trimmers and do one nail at a time. I had to be quick about it though and I only got one shot at it. Just do not trim back so far that you make him bleed. I would keep a muzzle and some kwik stop on hand just in case.



I dont know about the tranq's...Im not a big fan of them myself. I have seen some dogs go the other way on tranq's and have seen some owners give too much that the dog is out for hours and hours. I personally would only use it as a last resort...thats just me though.
owltyedup
2007-12-10 17:49:57 UTC
Must be a MinPin.

Sorry... bad joke. But after working with vets all this time this was the signature of a MinPin nail trim. Couldn't help myself.

Seriously though. You best bet is probably going to be to head down to the pet store and buy yourself a good muzzle and a set of clippers with a safety guard (so you don't trim too much) or a dremmel (my favorite) and some quick stop powder in case you do cut a little too far back.

He is going to hate it but what is good for our dogs is what we are concerned with... not with what they like or don't like.

Good Luck

~Tyed~
anonymous
2007-12-10 17:55:53 UTC
I had nails to trim for the cat from hades. Even the vet hated to see her coming in. He gave me several mild tranquilizing pills. Had to use the jaws of life to pry her mouth open before she chewed my hand to a nub, but they work. Shouldn't be too difficult to get doggie dearest to chomp one down. Once he's lightly out of the loop, trim his nails. Call your vet, explain the situation and ask for something to give your anxious pooch. Keep him indoors while the pill does its job so he doesn't go gallivanting stupidly down the road. Also have him stay inside until he's once again his drooling self.
witchywoman
2007-12-10 17:56:14 UTC
I agree with Owl.. This needs to be done and if I can do it anyone can. I have a dog that does the same thing and after 3 years she's down to just screaming. The neighbors think we are killing her. Always helps to have someone strong to hold the dog. My husband does this for me. Always wearing an old shirt. Good luck.
one_fishslayer
2007-12-10 17:53:59 UTC
Try playing with his feet in a relaxed setting. He is not going to like it at first. Very few dogs (in my experience anyway) naturally tolerate haveing their feet messed with.



Reward him with treats.



Feet messed with = Treat



Try walking him on concrete more to increase the trim interval a bit.



My late beloved Shovelhead died at 16 YO & he NEVER did get used to having us trim his nails...



$50 to do our Cattledog's nails sound like a bargain to me... :-)



Good luck
Psycmixer
2007-12-10 17:50:59 UTC
I have a nut case Pit and he hates it as well. so I do what the vet told me and take him for long walks on the side walk and it works ...he scratches them down all on his own...I also have an unused tennis court that I play slobber ball with him on and that also helps.

Happy Holidays and good luck!
captsnuf
2007-12-10 18:14:22 UTC
i honestly don't know how to help you but your problem reminds me of one of my beloved dogs...we got permanently 86ed from the groomers, too. they had a $10.oo special for flea dipping and bath for ALL dogs and my dog was a malamute shepherd mix, big with lots of thick hair...so i took him in for the $10 special and they took him and dipped him and bathed him and everything went very well, (he was a prince so far, everybody loved him)...then the issues started, they had to dig two trashbags full of his hair out of the drains, and then they put him in a cage drier to dry his coat...he tore it up trying to get away from the dryer, they finally got him calmed down and dried i came and got him and they very politely invited us not to come back, one of the people there said he was fine until the dryer...poor baby.
Jennifer B
2007-12-10 17:45:01 UTC
unfortunatly when dogs are not taught when young.. it can be hard. Talk with your vet about how to ease your dog into gettiung used to having his feet touched.



We have worked at our practice with such dogs and have had great results.



Good Luck
That's not my name
2007-12-10 18:28:57 UTC
I think the tranquilizers are your best bet. My in-laws have to do that with their dog to get him to the vet at all. Doesn't knock him out, just makes him groggy and takes the fight out of him.
ms. elle
2007-12-10 17:56:12 UTC
slowly introduce your dog to a nail cutter. give him treats when you show it to him .. and don't always bring it out to cut his nails. maybe you should show him that its not always a bad thing, and give him treats for good behavior when he's around the nail cutter. when u try to cut his nails, distract him from it. have peanut butter out for him to lick, talk to him so he looks at you.



good luck!



and btw, does he really poo and pee when you cut his nails?
pissy_old_lady
2007-12-10 17:44:06 UTC
sometimes people give dogs gravol to settle them down for traveling...talk to your vet to see if this might help and do it yourself....just make sure you get the proper dosage and the okay from your vet...don't just give it to him.
anonymous
2007-12-10 17:44:53 UTC
Your dog needs some serious training and more running on hard surfaces. I have never had a dog that needed its nails trimmed until it was so old they could barely walk.



Get a muzzle.
Mini kirby
2007-12-10 17:44:20 UTC
take him on walks on the street, it's like a giant nail filer.
Ginbail ©
2007-12-10 17:43:38 UTC
You might have greater success with a Dremel. Many folks do.
Misa M
2007-12-10 18:23:57 UTC
What kind of training was this? Why did the dog bite the trainer?
anonimous
2007-12-10 17:43:03 UTC
LEAVE YOUR DOG ALONE THEN, LET NATURE TAKE CARE OF THIS!!!!!!!


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