Question:
What's the most firm correction you've ever had to give..?
2012-08-24 13:26:01 UTC
And can i ask, what breed, and why?

Thanks..
Fourteen answers:
Teensy and Jacob: Terrier Terrors
2012-08-24 16:42:59 UTC
I have a few:



1.) When we had moved here after a few months, Taylor (mom's dog) one day decides he wants to chase Teensy (my dog) and start an actual fight with her (83ilbs vs 10ilbs). As he was running towards her, I full force kicked him in the nuts and he spun around towards me. Being in "fight" mode, I was ready to kill him. My eyes locked onto his eyes, he slinked away and layed down. The first and last time he tried to actually fight Teensy.



2.) When Teensy started maturing (6 months old) and Taylor tried to beat her up to take her food. I heard one yelp from her and was on top of him like white on rice. Lol! I punched him in the ribs and I haven't had a problem with him trying to take her food again. If she is eating from his bowl, he will sit and wait his turn. The first and last time he tried to take her food.



3.) Teensy was scaling the fence and I caught her in the act. She was grabbed from the fence, spanked on the leg and accidentally hung by her collar as I fought my way out of the bushes. Her freedom was given back the very next day and she hasn't ever tired it again. Oh, she got a pop on the leg all the way to the back door, sent to her bed and taken out of a leash for the remainder of the day it happened. Teensy hates being on a leash in the fenced backyard, when she could be roaming and taking her sweet time with freedom.



4.) I corrected some idiot's dog for running up behind my little dog, growling and ready to fight. I scooped Teensy up and as the dog came around, I full-force kicked it in the ribs!! It ran back into its yard. I calmly placed Teensy back on the ground beside me and continued our walk as if nothing happened. I came back through and the chicken **** dog was standing on the porch barking, but she wouldn't dare come back to face me. The next day, they got rid of the chicken **** dog and its sorry *** puppies. I will protect what is mine....just keep your unruly dogs away from my little dog. Even though we have been rushed or followed by many dogs (each time, I stand my ground), Teensy still loves her walks and could care less about a dog barking at her. She knows I will protect her, even if it means killing another dog.
Z
2012-08-25 16:28:54 UTC
Does someone get to win if they have the most brutal story?



The fascination with correction only bothers me, because novice handlers here may not understand the required balance of correction/praise. There are certainly experienced people here who read can read dogs. They can train, properly, and know what their dogs need and when. Handlers of high-drive breeds that thrive under a firm hand. I just don't think most here have those dogs. Or the control-freak 'my way or the highway' personality that most trainers have (admittedly, me included).



And then there are new or uninformed dog handlers. What message are they getting? Only correct? I feel for the dogs.



To answer your question, firmest one for human aggression.



The one I regret the most? The dog I over-corrected for not complying with a command I didn't train well enough. I will always remember the look on the dog's face.
Koda *K-9 Goofball*
2012-08-24 23:25:36 UTC
Probably doesn't qualify as a correction but Ive had to back hand my BC mutt after she tried to go for the throat on my Poodle mutt,Its not something Im proud of nor that Im boastful about as I would have liked to have handled it better,but the moment struck,the adrenaline was high and I did what I had to do to save my other dog.That's probably the worst,only other that might come close is a fight my mutts got into that I could not break up even with water,a good swatt to the backside with a broom cleared that issue up.
joyce
2012-08-24 20:48:38 UTC
Years ago, I had a male Westie. As a pup he was very aggressive and would snap and bite. You see, before I got him he was a runt in a disgusting house full of animals that would pick on him and he became molded to constantly defend himself. Even to a gentle human touch. These weren't harmless puppy nips but meant for intentional harm along with growling. My vet witness it and instructed me to grab above his neck and force him down to the ground whenever he would snap. I don't know if this was correct procedure and I'm aware that professional trainers might disagree with that method. Nonetheless, it was what I was advised and I wanted to give the little guy a chance. I only had to do that about 3 times and he turned into the sweetest dog until the day he passed.
?
2012-08-25 00:33:05 UTC
Well I did two to the same dog. I live in a household of four dogs, including a very mischievous 90 lb Boxer named Taye. Well, the first time was I had him and my German shepherd Abby out for a walk, and she's about 75-80 lbs and they got in a fight out on the walk. A grabbed them both by the necks ripped them apart, which was really hard and put them both on the ground next to each other. The hardest one was when Taye attacked my boyfriends Jack Russel over food, and I had to suplex his butt because he was fighting me to get to her so I grabbed his collar and his two front legs slammed him into the ground and got on top of him and said No very sternly. He stopped immediately and this house hasn't had an incident since. :) it is quite a task wrestling a 90 lb dog, I will tell you.
?
2012-08-24 20:49:02 UTC
When he was young, my Dutch Shep/Dobe mix got a wild hair up his bum and ran off down across the busy highway in the middle of the night.

I literally had to just jump at him to catch him, scraping up my arms really bad. He had got it in his head it was all a big big game, paying attention to me but running around and playing keep away, on the HIGHWAY.



I grabbed him by the collar and scruff of the neck and practically carried him by that with his front paws off the ground back onto our property. Not really a correction per say, but he has never even gone near the road again.



I used to walk around the property with him loose on occasion. A sharp callback would usually stop him in his tracks. Normally his call back is good even in distracting situations and he was reluctant to leave my side in the first place was younger.



eta; I pinned him too by the scruff before I dragged him home, partially because I was already on the ground after having to throw myself down to catch him.



LOL I'm the only one with all thumbs down while I practically get myself killed to rescue my dog from the interstate. What did I do wrong was my correction not firm enough? Should I have let the dog get hit? Now that would have been firmest correction of all I think...
YODEL
2012-08-24 20:54:39 UTC
Not sure if it counts as a "correction" since it was more a defensive action to stop a fight and prevent further injury to my dog- but I suppose technically it could count. LOL



I yanked a Bull Terrier off the ground by the neck and punched it in the face, right between the eyes, twice, in order to make it let go of my 25 lb dog, which it had attacked for no particular reason. Punched hard enough to make my knuckles swell up. Truth be told I was *hoping* the dog would let go of my dog and end up biting ME, as then I would have had a perfectly legal and valid excuse for putting a .357 round through its misshapen skull. No such luck. She did let go of my dog and didn't seem too interested in biting me, of course it could have been the fact that she couldn't breathe.



The dog was left in my care by some jerk "acquaintance" my husband knew.....hubby had offered to let him stay with us after his wife died (didn't ask me first, I wasn't thrilled about it). Guy didn't mention his dogs until he showed up, then he left to go on the road (truck driver) and I knew from the beginning that the Bull Terrier was going to be trouble. I have outdoor kennels but guy pitched a fit about how his "babies" couldn't be outside. For a month I rotated dogs using crates & the kennels outside to keep my 4 dogs separate from his 2. One momentary lapse in my vigilance on a Sunday afternoon, and that inbred, deformed idiot of a dog ran across the yard and jumped on my dog from behind. Ripped his front leg wide open and the only thing that saved him from a neck injury was the brass nameplate on his collar, which ended up dented with teethmarks.



After that, his "babies" lived outside permanently (he was lucky I at least fed the b*stards) and I put my foot down....the dogs are GONE or you're BOTH gone....the jerk came home, got his sh*t and got out of our house.



Other than that, actual training corrections? Worked with a big male Drahthaar (basically a version of a German Wirehaired Pointer) who was as wired as a meth-head and birdy as all get.....could have swung a sledgehammer at his head and he'd still ignore you. Hard leash corrections/hanging, an occasional thwack in the nuts when he broke whoa- that's about it.....oddly enough he didn't require a high e-collar stim to get him to turn in the field, that he was pretty good about.
?
2012-08-24 20:41:47 UTC
Hanging...6 or 7 times over 30+ years (actually, 1 dog had the same treatment several times...he just didn't care): Rottweilers, Shepherds and one mixed something.

Pipe on the head: German Shepherd....ex police dog thrown off for biting his handler.

Hand to hand (or mouth) combat with one Rottweiler until I got ahold of his nuts....still took 30 seconds for him to figure out he wasn't going to win. I had a few punctures...he had a different outlook on life.



ADD: Can't really talk about any of the BAD corrections in here...someone might get offended!
2012-08-24 20:59:21 UTC
The most firm correction I had ever given to my dog was when I grabbed and shook her scruff then pinned her to the ground onto her side. Her breed is a Siberian Husky one on the most stubborn breeds out there. I had given such a firm correction since she decided that she was going to try and dominate another dog and ignore my voice commands, ever since that day she has yet tried to disobey me.
Cheryl
2012-08-24 22:09:49 UTC
it was not my dog but a dog i was dog sitting ... a pug with an issue with skateboards ... one went by while walking him, his sister and my dog (pugs leashed, mine not) ... he bit his sister when he could not get at the skateboard, the sister dog away, he then bit my dog, who got away, and then he bit my ankle ... i grabbed him by the scruff and forced him on his side and kept him pinned for over ten minutes until he calmed down ... he does not go for skateboards (or bikes or strollers) when i walk him anymore ... the owner thought it was extreme but with the owner that pug still goes for anything on wheels (not cars) but with me he is much better behaved ... and i still dog sit them three times a year for six weeks at a time so i could not tolerate such poor behaviour and i told the owner that ...
2012-08-24 20:50:25 UTC
"FIRM"..I like that word, its very PC...Lets see, in the last 33 years, I don't know, there have been several hangings, 3-4 helicopter rides for dogs who insisted that chewing on me was better then listening, one who wanted to know what type of material my walls were made, cinder-block in that case...and many others.

You cant do this for this long, have several thousand dogs go through your hands and NOT have had some type of "combat" experience during it.
Lorraine
2012-08-24 20:29:01 UTC
Bloomin' strong minded rottweilers Kayleigh - that's the breed.



And the most firm correction I've ever given was to literally throw one on its back .... I think.... funny how you find the strength when you need it...
Tracy
2012-08-24 20:31:12 UTC
Call a good dog trainer..don't listen to the general public.
2012-08-24 20:58:06 UTC
Level 30 on his e collar. He went on the new grass where he's not supposed to, so I had to stim him.


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