Question:
Why can't people understand they are contributing to the killing of millions of pets by breeding their pets?
Stick to Pet Rocks
2007-01-09 10:45:30 UTC
Do they just think "I want, I want. I want" ? Or perhaps they only look as far as the end of their nose..."oh, I'll find them good homes." Do they not consider most of those pups will have pups? It will just keep escalating. Fact: 1 dog in 10 gets a permanent home. Fact: millions of dogs are killed EVERY YEAR because to many are born. Those of you that insist on breeding a pet, please explain to me WHY this issue is not important to you. Can you do that?
21 answers:
2007-01-09 12:11:51 UTC
Maybe many reasons,but I put it down to being an irresponsible pet owner! As you so rightly state,millions of unwanted pets are euthanized each year due to irresposible people who choose to breed their pets.

The over-population of unwanted companion animals is caused primarily by irresponsible humans. . If people practiced responsible companion animal keeping, including spaying or neutering their animals, the number of unwanted dogs and cats who are killed would decrease significantly.

Spaying/neutering our pets is part of the solution to pet overpopulation. Backyard breeding is part of the problem!!!

Reading some of the answers on here,I'm not suprised one bit why we have such an enormous amount of pets in shelters/destroyed!! "I only breed every two/three years" !!someone said. Does that not count?

" Because I have a champion dog"! said another.! So do I,his Mother won crufts,but I still chose to neuter him, rather than add to pet overpopulation!!!

"Has passed all neccessary health testing? I will also NEVER breed a litter unless I am breeding in hopes of keeping my next show prospect.".Isn't this still breeding?!!

As for getting a dog from a shelter, I have had three dogs from shelters,and ALL were wonderful dogs!!
Sassyshiba
2007-01-09 20:03:27 UTC
Do I breed dogs? Yes.



But here is where I draw the line between contributing and not. I am not your back yard breeder where I figure I have a male and a female LETS HAVE CUTE LITTLE PUPPIES!! NO. I have a champion female that I feel fits the standard of my breed and she has all her heath screens and is a compliment to my breed. I find a stud that will accent her features and hopefully produce puppies without her faults. I breed this dog maybe twice (3 years and 4 years of age) before she is fixed AND the puppies are NOT placed in any home that has a cheque book. They apply for a puppy and if I pick them I pretty much know the person so well I know what kind of underwear they wear BEFORE THE PUPPIES ARE EVEN BORN. When the puppies are ready to go they are 10 weeks old and the new owner is contacted on a daily basis to see if they need help or support. The puppies go with a health guarantee, AKC and CKC papers and a non-breeding contract where I require PROOF that the dog has been fixed. If I find out that the dog has been bred I charge $1000 per puppy produced and may even press charges. If the person ever needs to get rid of the dog I demand that it is returned to me. These puppies do not end up in the shelter and their puppies are no-existent (I make sure of it with constant contact)



It really depends on the way you look at it. I feel that if the person is breeding for money they yes, they deserve a pop in the face because what if the ***** needs an emergency C-Section and you cannot afford to do it. What if you ***** gets an infection? What if she does not produce enough milk? There is so much that can go wrong and people do not realize the risk. And these people who breed for money could care less if the puppy is bred as long as the person has a cheque. I am studying to become a vet tec and I am a certified dog trainer. Breeding Shiba’s is a hobby and in no way does it make me any profit when you factor in the dog shows, health tests, stud fee, puppy chow, vaccinations etc.



So I think that you judgment is correct but you cannot place it on all of us. I go by the philosophy that if you cannot rescue you cannot breed. I foster for new hope dog rescue and I have had many rescue dogs over the years.



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mcnatt c
2007-01-09 19:56:46 UTC
To me and my family dog was a member of my family.Everyone that saw her wanted her.Many people wanted to know where they could buy a pup exactly like mine.Now these are not people sleeping on benches at Central Park or begging at the parking lot at Walmart.These are reputable people with an education and common sense and with the dollars to take their pet to the vet as needed and for checkups as instructed by the vet.I too wanted a puppy that would have just the slightest personality as Pepper.She is tiny but the vet helped me choose the perfect mate for my beloved pet.All worked out wonderfully and I have been raising fabulous Pomeranians now for 16 yrs with 1 c-section in all those years and the vet said it was all due to an absessed tooth.After that i pay particular care to teeth and we brush with a finger cot 1 or 2X 's per day.And that is why I raise Pomeranian puppies .The people that pull into my driveway or in my Airport are reputable people that have the means and the will to care for their new family member.I hope you were not talking about responsible Breeders.Now that I look back I see you could be speaking of the yard dog that is running loose in the neighborhood breeding everything it can.I do not understand that case either.Hopefully people will get that message as the Laws of the land are beginning to change.
cpinatsi
2007-01-09 18:53:03 UTC
I have neutered both my pets, and I wouldn't breed them, so I don't feel I should apologise for anything, I know I did the right thing. But it is also wrong to kill the animals just because they are stray or can't find a home. I live in Greece, there are many strays, and this is a problem, for them I mean, because they are abandoned etc. And I hate the irresponsible people who let their pets breed and then leave the puppies in the streets. But nevertheless, these puppies must not be killed. Even as strays, in every neighbourhood some people feed them, the city authorities take them to the vet and neuter them, and they live quite happy lives. They don't bother people at all, so killing them would be an awful thing.
little_beth85
2007-01-09 19:05:20 UTC
Ok, in defense of all the responsible, reputable breeders, (of which, I am one) I need to put my two cents in. First off, I only breed one litter every 2-3 years. I always keep something for my next generation, and any remaining puppies are given to wonderful, "forever" homes. I actually have people on waiting lists to buy my puppies. Also, any puppy that is born at my house is always welcome to come home. I often board, groom and babysit them when needed. Any puppy that leaves my house for a pet home is sold on a "right of first refusal" basis, which means that if for some reason the owners aren't able to take care of it, (let's face it, life happens) and they don't have anywhere for the dog to go, they can come live with me for awhile until the owners get back on their feet or I'll find them a new home. So, I am very against backyard breeders, but there are those of us who are very dedicated to the puppies that we bring into the world. The last thing I want is for one of my "kids" to end up in a shelter, and every pet owner knows that the dog can always come back. Don't give us all a bad rap, ok?
tina c
2007-01-10 08:33:07 UTC
I realize there are people who believe it is an easy way to make a buck . You will never be able to stop this. We see plenty of it in our area .





Only education can change the public to see that it wrong to breed irresponsible. Our shelters here are not the best but all the animals are spayed or neutered from them..



I have educated myself and my own family to be responsible for the welfare of dogs and cats All our pets are fixed.

I will rescue dogs but with extreme caution as JR's like to fight.





I 've seen first hand how good intentions turn bad with another family member's ideas of breeding. It's a shame.



Check out Yahoo December News Reports of Beijing Chinese Government Seizing Pets . A rabies vaccine issue.
blondeqtpie13
2007-01-09 19:18:53 UTC
The ONLY reason to breed would be to improve the breed. If that's not happening, then it shouldn't be done. Designer dogs are a joke, too. The health problems these dogs end up with from combining breeds is just crazy. From where I'm sitting, if you mix a poodle with a dachshund...it's a mutt. Plain and simple.



People see dollar signs. I'll breed this Dobie with my neighbors and we will sell them for $400. I'll make a killing! No you won't. Reputable breeders put a lot of money into this before they get any back. You have to take the puppies to the vet for shots, dewormer (they do this at 2, 4, 6, and 8 weeks of age), and regular check-ups to ensure the puppies are healthy. You can't take them once, claim them a champion and then sell them. You have to pour your heart and soul into it and strive for perfect puppies.



I'm not saying get a dog from the pound. If you want to buy from a breeder, go ahead. Just make sure it is a reputable breeder.



Anyway, I agree with the original poster. Too many dogs are homeless or being put down, for no good reason. It makes me want to cry when I think about it.
2007-01-09 19:00:33 UTC
I am involved in showing boxers and will one day be breeding but only after any dog involved in my program has passed all neccessary health testing (hips, heart, thyroid, ect) and ALL puppies with the exception of the few that make it to the conformation ring will be placed on spay/neuter contracts. I will also NEVER breed a litter unless I am breeding in hopes of keeping my next show prospect. I am very much against any breeding that is done just to make money, or any reason other than improving the breed.
2007-01-09 19:16:06 UTC
I guess you would like me to get a dog from a shelter our pound.

I think you have a blinded reasoning to this. The most important thing a prospective buyer of a puppy can do is to look at the puppies parents. This enables me (as a purchaser) to establish the pedigree and stability of the puppy I am bringing into my home were my children are. I want to know that my puppy has not been abused or has dangerous traits that I am not aware of. My children come first - You should not be allowed to tell me how or were I get my puppy from. I would go to a breeder over the shelter anyday. I am more concerned about my children than anything else. You are blinded by your genuine concern for a dogs life (and I understand) But I would rather go to a breeder than a shelter. I can talk to a breeder - Ask a breeder questions - Go see the puppy and dogs as many times as I feel I need too.

I can ask questions about diet, exercise, temprement ect.

Sorry - YOU ARE WRONG...................Breeders are needed.
crested_love
2007-01-09 19:17:58 UTC
I am tired of hearing all of your rhetoric about having animals fixed. Honestly, if you truly want to take a bite out of something go after the AKC that says you cannot show your dog if it has been altered. Most people do not want an unstable and possibly dangerous canine from the pound or where ever. They want a family pet. I had visited the adoption centers several times looking for a good family pet. About a year or so later we found one. One that was a "good" dog according to the Humane Society. It later bit half of my 4 year olds face off, and I do mean that literally we had to get a plastic surgeon to put him back together. I guess the humane Society did not know that he was a fear biter. He had layed on the floor while my son and I played a game on the couch. My son went to get off the couch and slipped and fell about a foot away from the dogs face and the dog woke with a fright and bit him. Rescues are unpredictable, because otherwise the dog we had was a wonderful pet. I know now to only buy from breeders which led me to want to show them. Let me reiterate; people want a good family pet. Not one that will attack when a child falls to close to it. My family is much too important to me to risk an unstable rescue dog. Now we have two nice family dogs that do not bite and love my kids, but then again I bought from a breeder.
Shannon
2007-01-09 18:58:06 UTC
The fact is that there are ignorant people out there. As long as they remain uneducated to the problem, it will continue. I think that most of them would spay/neuter if they were aware of the problem and acknowledged it.



Of course, I am talking about the truly ignorant. There are also

those people who hold onto their ignorance so hard so that they can use it as an excuse to breed their mutts indiscriminately. These people shouldn't be allowed to own dogs. If they truly cared about them, as most profess they do, they would alter their pets and stop contributing to the deaths of millions.



Maybe you should start a campaign in your area to help with the problem. One person can make a difference if they are motivated enough and stick to it!
tlctreecare
2007-01-09 19:18:52 UTC
They think their dog is "special" or "wonderful" or they want their keids to see the miracle of birth.

Get a video. Your kids could care less.

It is about the all mighty buck. They breed becasue there are people who will pay large amounts of maoney for a puppy.

They do not care if it is registered or if it fits the breed standards ot anything about the background just that thye now own a (fill in the blank) breed of dog that is so popular right now.

People are stupid and if they had to take responsibility for what they did it might mean fewer dogs would be bred.

I only wish they could see in the future when their puppys who all had great wonderful happy homes are now in the shelter and are looking at being euthanised because they can not find a home for all of them.
bb
2007-01-09 18:56:42 UTC
my family gets cats and dogs from the shelter instead of pet stores. The local shelter provides discounts on getting your new pet fixed ... they may even require it. I believe this helps a lot! I wish more people would understand what they are doing.



A pet is a big responsibility. If you can't afford to have it fixed, or if you aren't responsibile enough to have it fixed, you shouldn't have it.



My parents did, however, purchase a dog that was bred. But they had to for allergy reasons. And they purchased the dog from a responsible person. The dog, of course, has been fixed!
dog7788
2007-01-09 18:57:02 UTC
Great question. I would like to know the answer as well. If these people really cared about animals they would allow the animals that are already here to find loving homes before breeding any further. I think it all comes down to ignorance and money. Certainly can't be a love of animals.



Great post.
bluebonnetgranny
2007-01-09 19:06:33 UTC
You did GOOD by post your question.



I have found that most people are just simply ignorant.



They don't think twice, in fact they don't even think.



I am a very firm believer in having pets spayed or neutered.



Let the professionals do their job of bettering a breed instead of messing it up by BYB.



Again, you did GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.



We share the same opinions.



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eightysgurl04
2007-01-09 18:54:22 UTC
I have two female huskies..yes I plan on breeding them..but..hear me out..only if they pass the ok from the vet and they are atleast 2 years old..their pups will be sold to mostly family and friends that I have already talked to and they know that the pup they get will come with a spay/neuter contract and that for any reason they can't keep the pup they can always give it back to me..My females are only having one litter and I'm getting them fixed...but I do agree with you..I do have two mutts that we have adopted from shelters and we will probably get some more from shelters once we move this year to our new house of 13 acres...many you see on here dont know the first thing about caring for their dog now let alone once she is pregnant, having the pups and the care both pups and mom will need afterwards...if you have to ask a common sense question then you shouldnt be breeding..
Give life. Be an organ donor!
2007-01-09 18:52:23 UTC
It IS important to me. Cats have the same problem. The only way out of this dilemma is to get the word out as much as possible. Just like Bob Barker on the Price is Right. Don't just complain about it, do something about it!
2007-01-09 18:51:31 UTC
It's denial and self-importance. It's also irresponsibility and stupidity.



As far as responsible breeders, it's a tough call. Yes, they contribute to it, and a good breeder acknowledges it, but the impact is minimal.



While I understand your sentiment, you should provide links to reputable organizations to support your facts.







Sorry eighty, you are a Backyard Breeder. Shame on you. If your friends want puppies, send them to a responsible breeder.
2007-01-09 18:50:29 UTC
I do agree. I wish people would spay/neuter their pets to help prevent over population.
S C
2007-01-09 18:53:35 UTC
they are just plain selfish! Thats all there is to it. They want money and they see that as a way to do it! I hate backyard breeders!!
allyalexmch
2007-01-09 18:56:06 UTC
I agree 100%.


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