i need information about dog competitions and Saint Bernards?

anonymous

2011-12-18 17:31:37 UTC

DAM & SIRE,not "damn".

Being in a movie is useless BS! What/where are the TITLES??

$600 means it's junk;will NOT finish.

BUY ,not adopt-children are adopted,animals are bought & sold.

READ THE BREED STANDARD!

GO TO SHOWS...learn before you get screwed into buying junk.

WyrDachsie

2011-12-18 16:51:33 UTC

OK, so just because a dog is in a movie, doesn't mean much. What's important is what genetic testing the breeder has done. Saints can have hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia and a host of other health issues. You want a breeder that OFA's. If your in the U.S., the best place to find a reputable breeder with healthy dogs is thru the St. Bernard Club of America. You are aware that they have very short lifespans, aren't you?

Next, you will not be able to purchase just any old St. Bernard and enter it in a show. I mean any dog with full registration can enter a show, but if the dog you enter is not a good quailty "show" dog, then you simply won't get picked and you'll be loosing money and look foolish. You get a show dog from someone who breeds show dogs, from pedigree's that have Champions in the front & the back of the pedigree.

No reputable breeder will sell a "show quality" dog with full registration to someone who has never shown a dog before. They might co-own, but they maintain breeding rights, they choose if the dog gets bred and who the dog gets bred to, not you. Breeders who show will either keep the show potential dogs for themselves or sell them to "show" homes.

By competitions, I'm assuming you mean conformation. However, there are many other types of competitions that are open to all dogs, mixed and pure. There's obedience, agility, rally obedience, tracking, weight pull, carting.

A reputable breeder will show you how to get started in competition. Yes, there is junior competition, it's not so much about the dog that the junior is handling, but how they handle the dog. Many times, a junior handler gets a retired show dog.

Coming here on Yahoo is not research. Research is learning from the breed club, getting books about the breed and actually reading them. Research is going to dog shows and looking at the dogs, watching the junior handlers and see how they handle dogs and compose themselves.

Read the breed standard and you'll learn what a full saddle, smooth coat is or how much a St. should weight and how tall it should be and what the correct temperment is.

fastdogs

2011-12-18 16:50:24 UTC

What kind of competitions are you hoping to enter with your St. Bernard? Conformation? The first step is to find a good breeder that will also be your mentor. He or she will have good quality dogs that have health clearances, good temperaments, and do well in shows, but that's not enough; you need to feel comfortable with them as a person too. Google "how to find a good breeder" for some helpful tips - the local breeder you found doesn't sound great, but there isn't really enough information. Price for a show quality puppy depends on the breed, but typically you're looking at anywhere between $600-$1500.

Your first step for finding a good quality breeder is going to the breed club:

http://www.saintbernardclub.org/

Most have a breeder/mentor referral program.

I also definitely recommend going to some local shows to see what it's all about. This will give you a chance to talk to some local Saint handlers and breeders. You can definitely compete as a minor - there's a program called Jr Handling that caters especially to handlers under age 18.

You can find some local shows here:

http://infodog.com/showinfo/showmain.htm

Good luck and thanks for doing your research!

anonymous

2011-12-18 16:44:13 UTC

You asked a question about the Saint Bernards earlier last night. And we all told you that $600 is very suspicious, and if the dam was in a movie, the price should be up like crazy, and the asking price should be way more than $600, that just seems suspicious to me. Most reputable breeders ask for at least $1,000, most will go $2,500-3,500 though. Are the parents shown? Are the parents covered for hip/elbow problems?

Once you get from a real breeder, you can ask them any questions you have, you need to start off by taking obedience classes, then take it from there.

Alesi's Chis

2011-12-18 16:50:57 UTC

Dam - mother, Sire - father. I know nothing about colors in the breed, and on this site, you're talking about few people with actual experience in each breed (if you're lucky, they will be on when you ask), so this is a poor venue for research.

I don't know what 'competitions' you mean. Conformation? Field work? Performance? If you want to do conformation, you choose a breeder who shows their dogs and get a show prospect. I'm not sure what kind of performance titles the breed gets, but look for breeders who do something with a dog other than conformation. You don't have to be an adult to handle a dog, but you won't bring a puppy home and be ready and able to compete a week later. Depending on what you do with the dog and how easy he/she is to train, it can take many months (puppy has to be 6 months for conformation, and I don't know about other events).

A good idea would be to join your local breed club (not sure if you have to be an adult) or the national breed club and look for a mentor in your area

Rayven ~ SCAdian girl

2011-12-18 16:45:09 UTC

Dam - mother of the litter

Sire - Father of the litter.

Honestly who cares what movie the mother is in. If you want a dog you can show you need to buy from a breeder who is actually showing and competing their breeding stock. You also want a breeder who does health clearances. yes 180 is weight.

Start reading, your research begins with the breed club http://www.saintbernardclub.org/

close and cheap are not always the best options. No you don't need to be an adult to compete with your dog.

Read the information on the national breed club site THEN find out if yo have a local club and check out their website if they have one and go from there.

anonymous

2016-05-16 03:05:15 UTC

I've got two Bernese Mountain Dogs, similar size and from a similar place and I get sick of idiots saying is that a St. Bernard? or does he have webbed feet? Grrrrrr! Rich

Berner

2011-12-18 17:00:08 UTC

The damn ( I don't know what that means, so if someone can explain that, it would be great)

There's no "n" in dam.. it refers to the mother

Sire ( please explain) is 180 rough coat. I'm guessing 180 is weight, if not please explain.

Sire is the father, 180 lbs and rough coat means it is the longer hair version.

See picture here:http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=st+bernard+rough+coat&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=b6uoFDP-RMexhM:&imgrefurl=http://www.givethedogabone.net/saint-bernard&docid=bV40tmm13xruRM&imgurl=http://www.givethedogabone.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/sb.jpg&w=360&h=277&ei=RIruTt37KqfY0QH49pHyCQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=474&sig=115084727385973127090&page=1&tbnh=148&tbnw=190&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0&tx=99&ty=67

|Damn is 140 full saddle, smooth coat. Please explain this to me! "Mother weighs 140 lbs and has a short coat with "saddle" markings

See picture here: http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=female+st+bernard+smooth+coat&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=u5GS4uuuAxnAxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.puppies-for-sale-june2010.com/pictures-and-information-about-sarge-and-harley.php&docid=SEzq8p-oY_Bf5M&imgurl=http://www.puppies-for-sale-june2010.com/resources/july2010%252520%252520pups%252520138.jpg&w=480&h=640&ei=qYruTvaGBInv0gGdvMCmCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=529&vpy=172&dur=203&hovh=259&hovw=194&tx=103&ty=144&sig=115084727385973127090&page=6&tbnh=143&tbnw=123&start=90&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:90

"Also, give me any other Information you have on Saint Bernards. I'm doing my research, thats why I'm asking these questions so I know all about the breed before I consider getting a Saint."

http://www.saintbernardclub.org/2008Redesign/NewToSaints/new2saints.htm

http://www.saintbernardclub.org/2008Redesign/NewToSaints/faqs.htm

http://www.saintbernardclub.org/2008Redesign/NewToSaints/buying_pup.htm

http://www.saintbernardclub.org/2008Redesign/NewToSaints/keep_healthy.htm

http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/stbernard.htm

http://www.akc.org/breeds/saint_bernard/index.cfm

http://www.akc.org/classified/pick_a_puppy.cfm

About competitions. Please explain what I need to do, if I get one of these dogs. Obviously they are registered but I want to know how to get started in competitions. Any information will be fantastic!

This depends on what kind of competition you want to do... for AKC conformation (what people typically think of when they think 'show dog' then click the following:

http://www.akc.org/public_education/mentor_getstarted.cfm

You can find out all the rules and regulations there.

I would be suspicious of a st bernard only costing 600.. they're an expensive breed to own, and 600 just doesn't seem right. Do a LOT of research on that breeder prior to signing anything. You're going to need a show quality pup to enter competitions and they're more expensive than a pet quality.. so get to know the standard and know it well. Never get a pup from someone who doesn't do extensive health testing.. do your research.