Question:
is the pet food safe now?
Deb W
2007-06-06 01:18:43 UTC
After the pet food recall, I was so afraid that I began cooking for my dog (a Laso-Poo). I give him lean meat with white rice and a vitamin supplument. I thought of holding off awhile after the contamination, to make sure everthing got cleaned and sterilized.
I dont mind cooking for him, but do you think the dog food is safer?
Thirteen answers:
nellana
2007-06-06 02:33:33 UTC
No, I don't think it is, and I don't think it ever will be. This recall was just the thin edge of the wedge....while dog food manufacturers continue to import rubbish from abroad, and, as the first poster correctly said, put euthanised dogs and cats in the food, animals unfit for human comsumption in then it is never going to be safe. BHA, BHT and Ethoxyquin are *still* used in dog foods, even though they are known to cause liver and kidney damage. (No wonder they sell "specialised" food for liver and kidney problems......they know they're causing it!!)



Read "Food Pets Die For" by Ann Martin. I've fed raw for 13/14 years now, and my dogs are full of health and vitality. I can see with my own eyes what my dogs are getting. They don't get the rancid fat, which is abundant in kibble. They get meat, and not meat meal. They get chicken, and not chicken feathers for protein. I could go on and on. My advice would be keep cooking for your dog. I would also add some bonemeal to that mix you have.........unless the vitamin supplement has that in? A good quality bonemeal (not the garden stuff)......if you have queries, you are welcome on the list below. It is primarily for raw, but everyone is welcome.
Freedom
2007-06-06 03:46:40 UTC
What people need to know is that this is not something new. There are toxins and chemicals in all dog food. The recall has just been a wake up call (that many are not answering). The FDA says right on their website that they found many toxins and are still working hard to find out which 2 toxins did not mix well and are causing the problems. They have found to date... Rat poison, agents similar to those found in antifreeze, melamine, cranuric acid and now this today.. acetametaphen!!... At this time they believe the cyuanuric acid and the melamine are the 2 ingredients that are not mixing well and causing the problems. There were only trace amounts of all of these things.

The pet food industry has very little knowledge what they are putting in the food. ALL of the ingredients come to them in powder form.. including the meat! It has to be this way in order for the ingredients to go through the extruder machines that make the shapes of the dog food.

The companies have to rely on their sources of whats in the products.. They can't know and they don't test it themselves. This is evident when over 10 MILLION and counting products got out the door and into stores and your dogs bowl before anyone got a clue. Over 15,000 pets have been injured or killed so far and that number will continue to rise for many months.

Recalls are NOT new. There is a huge pet food recall every year although this one has been the biggest in history.

Dogs are sick all the time. You see it right here on Y answers daily.. My dog is puking, my dog has had diahrrea for 2 days my dog has hot spots, my dog is lethagic, my dog is pooping or peeing blood, my dog is eating grass all day.... NO ONE ever seems to want to believe these things are being caused by what they are putting in the dogs bowl. People do not realize tht each and every batch is different and filled with unknowns of toxins.

This is why we have fed a RAW diet for almost 5 years and I would never feed crapinabag again.

People have the NERVE to sit around and state that fresh raw meaty bones that I could feed to my family is dangerous! What a joke as thousands and thousands of pets die or are injured from crapinabag daily. You will never hear of thousands of dogs dying from fresh foods!

Read these articles:

http://www.naturalrearing.com/J_In_Learning/Diet/Food/InTheBag.htm



http://www.magrr.org/Nutrition/inthebag.htm



And then buy Ann Martins book called "Foods Pets Die For" and you will see that this is NOT a new problem. Has been going on for yearsand will continue to go on forever.



People love to give a thumbs down on these types of answers. It's easier then reading the truth and learning anything.



And you do not need a vet or nutritionist to help you with a home made diet. A VET would be the last person to ask. They no very little about nutrition only having to take a few hours of nutrition classes all the years they are in school. They line their walls with Science Diet... That's the proof they are clueless on nutrition!! And getting a specialist to help you feed your dog??? IF you can feed yourself and your family with out the help of a nutritionist then you are perfectly capable of feeding a dog. Dog food companies have brain washed people with words like Complete and balanced into thinking that feeding a dog is some kind of a science and that THEY are the only ones qualified to figure it out.... all the while thrwoing a bunch of grains in your carnivore dogs bowl! What a laugh!!

Please read the following site.. You will love this one!

http://www.rawfed.com/myths/
Beverly
2016-03-13 10:21:03 UTC
God, this is the ost exasperating and scary thing for me right now. The recall has created so much stress for me, and money spent. Originally before this fiasco began I was feeding my cat Nutro Max canned food, a company who's name was on the recall list. The exact product I was using was not mentioned, but after some searching I found it was "suspected." I immediately took my cat off of it and took him to the vet for tests. $300 later, I found he is in perfect health; no problem. Then I buy him Natural Balance and yesterday some flavor of Natural Balance was recalled, so I got my cat off of that. Last night, after extensive research online, I decided to go to the raw/frozen food path. This morning, before I had fed my cat the new food, I found she had poo'd on the floor...?!???? I cannot understand why this happened before the change came around. Anyway I cleaned that up and I put the food down for my cat and she refused to eat it. I then squished some treats into it and she ate some of it. I really dont know what to do anymore. I am exhausisted and getting angry and spending way more money than I can afford just to keep my eating well and keeping my mind at ease.
tacomom
2007-06-06 03:26:50 UTC
I myself do not trust that commercial dog food is completly safe. Feeding your dog food you cook is great if you have a formula that has been balanced by a vet nutritionist.

If you would like to take a look at a safe food from a holistic vet go to my source. I have been feeding this food and my dogs and cat are doing great on it and it has never been susceptable to the contamination as it does not contain any harmful ingredients and quality control with this company is great. This is a healthy balanced food that is excellent for your pets. Hope this helps.
libertydogtraining
2007-06-06 07:26:12 UTC
I only feed Flint River Ranch. They buy their ingredients from the same places our foods come from, so they are not contaminated.



I feel it's safer to feed human grade quality kibble because you know your dog is getting everything. Cooking is good for your dogs,but if you do not know what your are doing, they can come out lacking in essential nutrients.
2007-06-06 02:57:24 UTC
I'm not sure about it. But in my opinion, I think you should cook food for your dog. I think dogs like to eat something that you make more than pet food. New food is usually better than old food. But if you cook food for you dog, don't put salt in it because it will make your dog's kidney will be bad because dogs can't eat salty food like people. So be careful.
A Great Dane Lady
2007-06-06 05:13:07 UTC
No, from the news stories, another recall is in the works. They found Tylenol in pet food in Texas.

Just be sure you are feeding a balanced diet. Join a Yahoo group like

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/K9kitchen
Shanna
2007-06-06 01:24:06 UTC
Honestly, in my opinion, NO! Even if the contamination is remedied, pet food is and always has been made with meat that is condemned for human consumption, meaning it is rotted, soaked with chemicals that are KNOWN to cause illness, and can even legally contain roadkill, and euthanized dogs and cats - EWWW!!!

So no, I don't believe it is safe and I will continue to make my dog's food at home where I know what they are eating.
2007-06-06 01:31:38 UTC
Yes it is safe to purchase dog food now, they did a total recall on all of the pet foods that were contaminated,meaning that it's probably safer for you to buy your dog food now then it was before they did the recall. They are really keeping an eye on whatever comes out of the factory ever since that incident happened. And bottom line is that dog's systems are totally different from ours so what may be rotten or spoiled to us he may digest it perfectly fine... Hope I helped :)
braver
2017-01-15 19:45:51 UTC
Lasopoo
monica c
2007-06-06 01:31:53 UTC
of course, pet food is safer coz even i hv a german shephard (boxy) if u feed him home food ur dog will not get the nutrition it wants

for ur doggy pedrigee is the best and if u hv a cat, for pussy wiskers r the best. i think that for ur dog
2007-06-06 02:07:30 UTC
high quality dry kibble was always safe,,, it would be better for your dogs teeth too/// try CANIDAE
OntarioGreys
2007-06-06 06:29:00 UTC
Not all dog food is terrible, some companies make dog food out a crap 4 D meats (dead, down, diseased,or dying ) and waste products from human food processing, so those foods will always be risky



Other food companies only use human grade ingredients to make dog food



Pick foods from this page in the 5 and 6 star categories





in the 4 star category some are okay but not all



http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/index.php/cat/1



I prefer to stay with grain free foods(6 star category simply because they do not contain grains because grains are highly susceptable to molds, improper testing during manufacturing has resulted in previous recalls that caused deaths due to moldly grains(mycotoxins) but can also occur if manufactured and checked properly but stored incorrectly in your home.



Below some articles on grain molds



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Would you keep a loaf of bread open in your kitchen for 39 days?





We hope not. That's how long an open bag of dog food typically lasts. This lengthy storage time and poor storage conditions often lead to nutrient degradation, oxidation of fats and infestation by molds, mites and other food spoilers.





Another set of numbers, as a dog owner, you want to be concerned about: One in three dogs dies of cancer. We believe improper storage at home is a major contributing factor to that mortality rate.





Dry dog foods usually have a one-year shelf life. That means the food is good for up to one year after the manufacturing date. Many dry foods stamp a best if used by date on the package. This applies only to unopened bags, however. High-quality dog food companies use bags that provide protection from oxygen and moisture. If the bag is intact, not enough oxygen and moisture can migrate into the food in one year to cause significant oxidation or microbial growth problems.





Though there are problems that can occur between the food manufacturer and the customer opening the bag, it's what happens after the bag is opened that we are most concerned with in this article.



Here's a short list of goodies, among others, that enter the bag after it's opened:





Oxygen

Moisture

Light

Mold spores

Storage mites



Oxidation of fats: , oxidized fats may cause cancer and contribute to many chronic health problems in humans. The same is true for dogs.





Dog food companies use antioxidants -- sometimes vitamin E and other natural sources -- to slow down oxidation. Every time the bag is opened, however, oxygen enters. Eventually, the antioxidants are all oxidized (used up) and some of the fats are damaged, starting with the more fragile omega-3 fatty acids that better pet food companies now add to their foods.





Degradation of all micronutrients: Vitamins particularly susceptible to oxidation and damage due to long-term room temperature storage include vitamin A, thiamin, most forms of folate, some forms of vitamin B6 (pyridoxal), vitamin C and pantothenic acid. The nutritional value of the food at the bottom of a bag left open 39 days will be considerably less than the food you remove when you first open the bag. Simply put, the fresher the better.





Molds and mycotoxins: Storing open bags of dry dog food for 39 days in warm, humid areas (most kitchens) promotes the growth of mold. Some of the waste products of this mold (mycotoxins) are increasingly being linked to long-term causes of cancer and other health problems in humans, poultry, pigs and other animals. Dogs are particularly susceptible to these toxins.(1)





When dry dog foods absorb moisture from the surrounding air, the antimicrobials used by most manufacturers to delay mold growth can be overwhelmed,(2) and mold can grow. The molds that consume dry pet foods include the Aspergillus flavus mold, which produces Aflatoxin B1, the most potent naturally occurring carcinogenic substance known.(3)





People don't see low levels of mold, and most dogs can't taste it.(4) In fact, many dogs have died shortly after eating mycotoxin-contaminated foods.(5) Mycotoxins kill most dogs slowly by suppressing the immune system and creating long-term health problems in all organs of the body.(6)





Infestation: Bugs, storage mites, mice, and other unpleasant invaders thrive on dry dog food. Recent research has shown that allergic dogs are frequently allergic to the carcasses of storage mites, which may infest grains, especially those grains used in low cost dry dog foods.





Our Recommendations





Keep food in its original bag, even if you use a container. Plastics can leach vitamin C out of the food and the components of the plastics themselves may leach into the food. Rancid fat lodges in the pores of plastics that are not food-grade and will contaminate new batches of food.

Buy small, fresh bags of food, enough to last seven days. Look for manufacturing or best if used by dates on the bag. If you don't see one, or can't understand the code, write the manufacturer and ask where it is or how to interpret their codes.

Keep food dry. If the food looks moist, throw it away.

Keep larger bags in the freezer. This is the only way we believe large quantities of food may be kept safely.

If the food is off-color, throw it away.

If the food smells rancid or like paint, throw the food away.

If your dog says no, do not force her to eat it.

Don't buy bags that are torn.

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Mycotoxins in Pet Foods

In recent years, concerns have been expressed by some pet owners regarding the potential for contamination of pet foods that contain grain products with naturally-occurring mycotoxins . Mycotoxins are metabolic by-products of fungi that are toxic to both animals and man. These concerns are based to some extent on current data which has shown that mycotoxins are toxic to farm and laboratory test animals. Food contamination may be more relevant in pets since they are maintained and fed for longer periods of time than farm animals and thereby are theoretically more vulnerable to chronic exposure to toxicants.



It is generally recognized by petfood manufacturers that mycotoxin contamination is a source of increased problems in their industry. Ingredients that are at risk of becoming contaminated are wheat and wheat products , corn and corn products, soybean meal and hulls, barley and oats.



Mycotoxins can develop prior to harvest where their concentration depends on weather and natural conditions, including moisture, temperature, pH and stresses such as drought and associated growth of other fungi and microbes. Grains and feeds can also be contaminated with mycotoxins between harvesting and drying, as well as during storage. Once produced, these toxins cannot be readily extracted from contaminated feed.



The major mycotoxins with potential for contamination of pet foods are aflatoxins,vomitoxin, zearalenone, fumonisins, and ochratoxin A. Three genera of fungi, Aspergillus, Penicillium, and Fusarium (Gibberella), are the most frequently implicated causes of mycotoxin contamination.



Aflatoxins are one of the most potent naturally-occurring carcinogens known to man and have been associated with a variety of health problems in both animals and man. All species appear to be susceptible to this toxin, although susceptibility varies from species to species. The primary target organ for aflatoxins is the liver with liver disease resulting from dogs ingesting aflatoxin-contaminated dog food.



Vomitoxin, known chemically as deoxynivalenol (DON), affects weight gain and appetite in pigs, with 10 ppm resulting in loss of appetite, vomiting and weight loss. It is also known to adversely affect the immune system, although at what levels this would start to occur remains unknown. Little is known about its toxicity in pets. It is known that dogs are susceptible to relatively low levels of vomitoxin and exhibit health problems similar to that seen in swine. Cats, as well as cattle, poultry, and humans, can also be affected.





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In 1995, Nature's Recipe pulled thousands of tons of dog food off the shelf after consumers complained that their dogs were vomiting and losing their appetite. Nature's Recipe's loss amounted to $20 million. The problem was a fungus that produced vomitoxin (an aflatoxin or "mycotoxin," a toxic substance produced by mold) contaminating the wheat



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In 1999, another fungal toxin triggered the recall of dry dog food made by Doane Pet Care at one of its plants, including Ol' Roy (Wal-Mart's brand) and 53 other brands. This time, the toxin killed 25 dogs.

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Mycotoxins contaminate cereal grains worldwide, and their presence in pet food has been a potential health threat to companion animals. Aflatoxins, ochratoxin A, and Fusarium mycotoxins have been found in both raw ingredients and final products of pet food around the globe. Aflatoxin, a hepatotoxin and carcinogen, has caused several food poisoning outbreaks in dogs, and aflatoxin content is regulated in pet food in many countries. Ochratoxin A and Fusarium mycotoxins including trichothecenes, zearalenone, and fumonisins may have chronic effects on the health of companion animals. Grain processing, sampling error, analytical methods, conjugated mycotoxins, storage conditions, and synergistic interactions are common challenges faced by the pet food industry. Food-processing techniques such as sieving, washing, pearling, ozonation, and acid-based mold inhibition reduce the mycotoxin content of cereal grains. Dietary supplementation with large neutral amino acids, antioxidants, and omega-3 polysaturated fatty acids as well as inclusion of mycotoxin-sequestering agents and detoxifying microbes may ameliorate the harmful effects of mycotoxins in contaminated pet food.



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COLUMBIA, S.C. - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration reports that at least 76 dogs nationwide are believed to have died as a result of eating contaminated Diamond Pet Foods.



The company has recalled 19 varieties of dog and cat food because tests showed high levels of aflatoxin, a naturally occurring toxic chemical that comes from a fungus found on corn and other grains that causes severe liver damage in animals.



The company recalled products manufactured at its Gaston, S.C., plant from around September to November 2005. Based on sample testing, Diamond has narrowed down the exposure to food produced on Oct. 11, Brinkmann said Thursday.


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