Question:
What's the address of Mutts & Moms?
I love lucy
2007-10-16 12:29:00 UTC
I really want 2 adopt a puppy & a friend of mine suggested that Mutts and Moms was a great place to adopt a dog. So I went to their web site & i'm really new to web sites and things like that so I couldn't find it. I really want 2 check out this place & if its far away i would like to write 2 them & get info.

By the way my friend moved a few weeks ago & still hasn't gotten her telephone service so as u can tell I can't talk 2 her.4 the address.

Anyway please & Thank You!
32 answers:
auskan2002
2007-10-16 12:36:47 UTC
Kind of convenient that this question showed up just after the Ellen DeGeneres announcement and oh by the way, the asker can't ask the friend who referred her because the friend is incommunicado.
2007-10-18 04:17:51 UTC
I urge you to reconsider your negative opinion about Mutts and Moms. Unfortunately, the only side most of the public has heard and seen is Ellen sobbing and telling her side of the story...which from her point of view is accurate. However, as a hard working volunteer with another dog rescue group...National Great Pyrenees Rescue...I can understand the reason for Mothers and Moms being "the bad guy". All "good" rescue groups have certain restrictions and requirements that are in the best interests of tthe dogs they have for adoption. For example, Great Pyrenees are inclined to wander if not actively guarding a flock, so, in most instances, we require a fenced-in back yard. What has not been mentioned on any of the TV broadcasts I have seen is that because Mothers and Moms work with small and toy size dogs, they feel the need to look after these little creatures best interests...and that includes the fact that even though children love dogs, they sometimes they don't realize how fragile these little critters are and could injure a small dog while just trying to hug and love it...or dress it up in different outfits etc. Ellen is a wonderful person and a real dog advocate...but in this instance, unknowingly, she is the one who created the problem and is not doing what would be in the best interests of all involved. While the hairdressers children had fallen in love with the dog, the dog had not been a long-time family member. So, far better that Ellen had apologized to them, telling them how she had made a mistake, the guidelines Mothers and Moms have set are to protect all of the dogs they rescue, and that she/Ellen would take the girls to find/and buy another dog for them. The way this situation has been made known to the public has caused many people to shy away from adopting a dog from a rescue group. And since Ellen is such a supporter of all animals, I don't think this is what she had in mind when she told her audience about the problem.
Wicked Good
2007-10-16 13:35:36 UTC
I'm sure if they live far away they will not help you with a dog adoption. Most rescue's would require a home visit. Perhaps you should look to a local rescue in your neighborhood.



As far as Mutt's & Mom's I believe they over reacted to Ellen finding the dog a new home and SHOULD have interviewed the people to see if they could provide a suitable home as that would have been in the best interest of the dog who I'm sure was bonded to them as well. They could have gone through the same process with them that they would another adoptive family.



More over I do NOT understand why Mutt's & Mom's had Ellen pay for the altering of the dog and microchipping when their site (before it was taken down) said it did these things. Obviously they didn't or Ellen would not have paid $3000 to do so. Quite a high amount if you ask me....



Hopefully this organization will come forward interview the family and return the dog. Obviously they liked the idea of having controlling power over the whole situation and acted in misguided rush of emotion instead of investigating the family.



Some rescues do become overboard and this may be the case here. If they would come forward and not have hidden they would be easier to understand. Taking down the website is just their way of turning tail and running and in the end it's the animals they say they are pledged to defend that are paying the price.
michael07fairfax
2007-10-19 02:18:18 UTC
I've seen a lot of people talking about the contract and that Ellen was wrong for violating it. Well, as it turns out the contract that Portia deRossi signed was not valid and thus is unenforceable. It was just learned that Mutts & Moms hadn't signed and returned some paperwork.

I watched the lady (Marina Baktis) who formed Mutts & Moms crying because she loves dog and devotes her life to saving them. Well, if that is true then why is Ms. Baktis running Mutts & Moms out of Paw Boutique (a retail and home delivery service).

And according to the web site: http://www.pawboutique.com

Ms. Baktis hosts Mutts and Moms (a non-profit organization that rescues dogs from Los Angeles City and County shelters) at our store, 523 S. Raymond Ave, Pasadena, CA, every Sunday from 11am-3pm.



Every Sunday from 11 am - 3 pm ... WOW! Look at all the time Ms. Baktis puts into Mutts and Moms. The rest of the time she's charging like $50 for a small bag of dog food.



I watched Ms. Baktis on a video shot by TMZ.com as she grabbed the poor dog and then refused to even let the 2 kids pet the dog. Ms. Baktis was acting like a little kid while the 2 kids were acting like adults:

http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/18/ellen-portia-rush-to-home-where-iggy-was-taken/



And according to TMZ.com, they have another video where you can watch the following:

"It's emotional, raw and heart-wrenching. Watch Ellen, Portia, Ruby (the little girl) and Cheryl (Ellen's hairstylist) describe the blow-by-blow of how Mutts and Moms steamrolled through the home and took the pup."



With the contract no longer valid, I really hope Ellen gets her attorney to file papers to get the dog back and give Iggy back to the children.
Lisa x
2007-10-18 00:38:11 UTC
Apparently Marina and her posse showed up at the residence of the hairdresser's on Sunday under false pretenses claiming that all they wanted to do was see the dog's living environment. As soon as these ppl arrived at the home they made a bee line to the dog and picked it up and refused to release the dog to the new owners. Both sides called the police and unfortunately the dog was still micro chipped to Marina after a month of ownership after Ellen had donated $600.00 and legally owned the dog.



These people had no intention of reviewing the application of the new dog owners that Ellen had given the dog to. They had every intention on taking the dog out of their home. Not only we're they planning on taking the dog (where you can see the video on TMZ) they were bad mouthing Ellen over the issue to the new dog owners.



You can see all 3 videos on TMZ.... http://www.tmz.com/

Apparently, Ellen and this Marina woman of Mutts & Moms had been in contact via phone earlier and this woman from this pet adoption agency was uncooperative from the very beginning. It kinda sheds some light on the mind set of this organization. Right or wrong this organization handled this unprofessional from the beginning. She threatened to expose Ellen to the media and sue her over this issue if Ellen didn't immediately return the dog between 11:00 - 2:00 the following day.



On another note...It seems that this company Mutts & Moms has been suspended from the CA Secretary of State. What does this mean? That possibly any contract that Ellen had signed with Mutts & Moms wouldn't mean any more than the poop from this little doggy if it shat on the contract itself. You can review the post on the following site that gives you a link to the CA Secretary of State http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/17/215726/17.



Threatening to kill the owner over this is too extreme but boycotting her organization sounds more than fair given the circumstances.



Better Yet..Here's Mutts & Moms address and contact info.



1. Marina Baktis

Mutts and Moms

4610 Cerrillos Drive

Woodland Hills, CA 91364

1.818.932.8914

pawboutique@yahoo.com

Marina Baktis

578 MC Wilton Place

Altadena, CA 91001

Phone: 626.797.7662

Email: mbaktis@hotmail.com
george h
2007-10-19 11:39:19 UTC
What I don't understand is why Ellen's friends didn't contact the local District Attorney and press charges against the woman.

The pet is considered property. The woman has a contract with Ellen not them. She would have to take Ellen to court to legally retrieve the dog even under any breach of contract she can't just take it.

The woman committed 2 crimes minimal and may more. Trespassing and theft of property grand larceny I think considering 3000 dollars was spent on the pet. I not sure if that rates a felony in CA been a while since I lived there. But then if she took the pet out of a family members hands you have assault.



So if any of you know the family or how to reach them you might want to point out that they can use the law to force her into giving the dog back.



Especially since her contract carries no wait since her company was out of registration. Simple proposal is she gets the dog back or goes to jail for a while.
2007-10-16 13:25:08 UTC
Yes, it is wrong what they did. But what is boycotting them going to solve. Nothing! They help to place animals in good homes. Ellen, having the good heart that she does, thought she did the right thing. She did not realize that she needed to return the dog to them if things did not work out. Mutts and Moms is just trying to stay within the guidelines that they have all sign when adopting a pet. It is like that with most all shelters and such. I do believe that Mutts and Moms need to give the new owers the chance to fill out the papers for adoption and go through the process. If Ellen saw this as a good home for Iggy, I do not see how they can turn them down.
Crystal
2007-10-16 13:09:59 UTC
Mutts & Moms web site is located at http://members.petfinder.org/~CA711/index.htm. Either the organization or PetFinder.org has taken the site down as it no longer exists. You can only find it by searching the cached pages of Google.



They are serve the Los Angeles City and County area. You can contact them by e-mail at pawboutique@yahoo.com.



As for the Ellen issue, just like anyone who adopts a dog from a rescue group, you probably will be asked to sign a contract. Be sure to read it as there is alot of important information in there. When you adopt the dog you might think "Oh I'll never had to give him up", but trust me you never know. Make sure you know what you are getting yourself into.
Jenny H
2007-10-16 13:38:33 UTC
Boycotting Mutts & Moms is not the answer. I work with rescue. We have Home Visits for a reason. In order to adopt a dog from us, we have to make sure the home is suitable. What Ellen did was totally against the agreement she signed. All rescues require adopters to sign an agreement that if the animal isn't working out that they are to return the animal to rescue. PERIOD! No "if's" NO "and's" and NO "but's"

Boycotting them, is turning your back on a homeless animal. That's real smart!

I submit to you to open your home as a foster to a homeless animal, then maybe you will get an idea what rescue are up against on a daily basis.

Mutts & Mom had no choice, but to do what they did. And because Ellen is a "star" they should have bowed out? I don't think so.

k5
2007-10-16 15:13:39 UTC
Even if I knew I would not tell ye,me gut feeling that is not the real question here on ye part,me thinks maybe ye asked to stir up a bee hive and looky,ye succeeded,Mutts and Moms are ****'s,I know many animal rescue groups and they don't do wot those tarts did,how dare they take that dog when Ellen made sure it went to a good and loving home,believe me after today those people will want to stick their heads in the sand for awhile and pretend this did not ever happen,they are arrogant and have no compassion as far as I'm concerned!
M'Shel
2007-10-16 18:02:00 UTC
Why did the lady from Mutts and Moms tell the little girls' family she was only coming by to do a home check and then once she got there hijack the dog? She got them to let her in their house under false pretenses. I'm sure if Ellen and the hairdress knew she was planning on taking the dog away they would not have told her where the hairdresser lived.
sweeti5329
2007-10-16 13:12:51 UTC
I would like to know where this agency is located as well. For them to get rid of their website is the guilt speaking. They know what they did is wrong and don't want other people to look at them and speak to them in a way that would make them feel worse. I think that the Mutts and Moms Agency are a bunch of people that are completely doing the opposite of what they promote. I would love to give them a piece of my mind. This is coming from a very big animal lover. I give my animals everything and I dedicate my time to them. Ellen did a responsible thing, giving the puppy to a good home and for those nasty people to go and take the puppy away is wrong. They could have solved the problem in other ways. If I was the family that got that puppy, I would do everything in my power to get the puppy back. The Mutts and Moms Agency are horrible people and I hope they get what they deserve. Karma speaks for itself.
kate
2007-10-16 13:22:05 UTC
Many, many of the "Mutts and Moms" web pages seem to have "mysteriously" disappeared. I was recently looking for their web page(s) to see if they have issued a statement regarding their lack of sensibility in taking away a dog from two children. I finally found some of their website in the "cached" section of their URL at a search engine result listing. You may possibly get in touch with them at this email address I saw posted at "Craig's List":



pawboutique "at" yahoo.com



They perhaps are in hiding (?)



It would be more expedient if you checked with your local county shelter or at this new website:



http://www.dogsindanger.com/



Currently there is an article about the above new website at www.msnbc.com



If you feel you are so "new" you are unable to handle web-sites and your friend "seems" to be incommunicado, please pick up your phone book to call your local shelter, if you are so inclined to adopt a puppy.



kate
tsawyer2010
2007-10-17 11:04:17 UTC
Avoid Marina Batkis Mutts and Moms of Pasadena, CA like the plague. They are low-life scumbags who steal back dogs and resell them without asking or refunding the original purchasers money. Marina is a low life liar and may have been a prostitute in her past (Unconfirmed at the time of writing).
2007-10-17 07:21:40 UTC
For years I have shopped at “Heavy Petting” in West Hollywood and also bought products at the regular dog adoption fairs. As we have no children, we spoil our dogs spending more on them for clothes/treats than we do for ourselves.



When we moved to the valley I was looking for a pet specialty shop closer than going over the hill and heard about Mutts and Moms. It has been on my ”to-do” list for a long time to check out the store the next time I’m in Pasadena.



Then I herd about what Mutts and Moms did and it really struck a nerve. We have also been the recipient of pet adoption prejudice.



When my Husky died at 16yrs (extremely old for a Husky – he lead a good life), I looked at adopting a dog from a pet rescue I met at the dog fair. Upon seeing that we had a pool (even though it was fully fenced away from the dogs) they turned us down.



When my lab contracted cancer at 10yrs we spent thousands on holistic meds and even chemotherapy for 2yrs but lost him anyhow. Again I went to a pet adoption fair and filled out another form to adopt a dog there. When the representatives came to look at our house, they saw we were remodeling our kitchen and said “we didn’t qualify because of the construction”



We have since adopted a Terrier mix we found on the street half dead and a Shibu mix from my cousin that lost it’s home from a divorce. Both dogs are loved from morning to night as I work at home. We prepare fresh food for them ourselves as it is better than dog food. We pay medical bills to keep them healthy even if it means we have to delay care for ourselves. We set aside quality time each day just for playtime, walks and “pet massage” In short, we love these dogs as our own children.



But two pet adoption agency’s found us lacking. They passed judgment on someone that really would have loved their dog because we didn’t fit their “preferred profile”. Maybe those two other dogs found a loving home. But I do know that wherever they are, they’re not getting more love and attention than the dogs we have now.



Pet adoption agencies pass judgment on people's lives not from the heart, where it counts, but from the head, checking off a list of requirements and protocols. I believe “Love” is the most important qualifier to adopt a pet. I am reminded of this every time I see a homeless man on the street with a dog outside a fast food joint. When I buy them something they always feed the dog before themselves. Thay have no home at all, but love and companionship is all it takes.



I will not even consider shopping with Mutts and Moms unless the dogs are returned to the little girls that love them.



All people make mistakes, It’s never too late to do the right thing. I hope Mutts and Moms sees it in their hearts to re-unite a family.
mikesnvgirl
2007-10-16 14:19:07 UTC
Does anyone else think that this poor dog is going to end up on e-bay or sold to the highest bidder because it was Ellen's dog? Looks to me like this place is just out for money. With all of the animals who die in shelters everyday because of overcrowding, they took a dog back from a good home. Everyone who is disgusted by these people should e-mail them and let them have it!



pawboutique@yahoo.com
rescue
2007-10-16 13:45:07 UTC
Everyone needs to calm down. Why are people so willing to crucify this rescue without knowing all the facts, just because a celebraty says it's so.

Rescues do good work and this rescue seems to be getting the short end of the stick. Since there website seems unavailable there is not way to confirm talk.

However, I am sure like any other rescue they have documents and procedures that need to be followed.

Ellen needs to be held accountable for not reading what she signed.

Give me a break she had the dog two weeks and decided it wasn't going to work.
t3merchant
2007-10-17 22:49:48 UTC
1. Marina Baktis

Mutts and Moms

4610 Cerrillos Drive

Woodland Hills, CA 91364

1.818.932.8914

pawboutique@yahoo.com

Marina Baktis

578 MC Wilton Place

Altadena, CA 91001

Phone: 626.797.7662

Email: mbaktis@hotmail.com
Courtney
2007-10-16 12:37:16 UTC
They are located somewhere in Pasadena, CA. But Ellen just had an issue with them for adopting a dog and then giving it to her hairdresser. So Mutts & Moms came and took the dog back. Read your paperwork before adopting. Good luck.
2007-10-16 12:36:17 UTC
mutts and moms is the rescue that Ellen DeGeneres adopted a dog then the dog was taken back to the shelter . so by "friend" do you mean you saw the yahoo newspage?

http://tv.yahoo.com/contributor/33469/news/urn:newsml:tv.eonline.com:20071016:52aaaa4a_cc804fa6_a4b7_29df6a9d8973__ER:61305
Cindy
2007-10-16 13:02:58 UTC
Boycott Mutts & Moms!!!! After what they did to Ellen do you really want to deal with a horrible organization like that? The dog was placed in a loving home and they TOOK IT AWAY! They need to get shut down ASAP.



Do you have a Humane Society near you? Or try petfinders.com.
Kissingbythesea
2007-10-16 13:20:10 UTC
are looking for them because you have bad intentions on your mind? there are plenty of animals to adopt in the LA area - visit the Pasadena Humane Society - or an LA county kill shelter. Those animals are desperately looking for someone to love them.
hemmerrocks101
2007-10-16 21:29:55 UTC
Good for you! You might email this lady and let her know WHY you aren't using her organization.



I work with a breed rescue and I can assure you that we would never handle a situation like that. I can't IMAGINE taking POLICE to a child's house to take away a pet they've bonded with!!!!



TMZ has a new article, please read...and also BOYCOTT this lady's store in CA called "Mutts and Moms"
2007-10-16 17:21:39 UTC
Here, This site has the address and tells a little about Mutts and Moms.



http://pasadena.insidelocalcities.com/mutts-n-moms.php
dave
2007-10-22 12:34:55 UTC
LOL. man this writer is such a bad liar. "i'm really new to web sites and things like that." that's priceless. oh and "my friend moved....hasn't gotten her telephone service." what an idiot.
PISSED AT MUTTS
2007-10-16 13:44:59 UTC
LOOK ALL! JUST FLOOD THEM WITH THE EMAILS! They don't give a rats tooshie about the animals! They took it out of a home with a family and placed it in a 90% caged environment! Boy, that's speaks volumes for the organization! And to top it off they take their website down! What a business! I feel for the animals in their care!
2007-10-16 13:11:02 UTC
Why would you adopt from then when they took Ellen's dog away from the little girls she gave it to? Did you see the clip?

That place could have let the family that took in the dog sign papers but they didnt! I can't get over how rude that is-

try other shelters that one seems to have to many rule issues.



PS- Don't boycott Mutts and Moms, boycott their rules!
Suzanne M
2007-10-16 13:07:43 UTC
Here ya go! Have at 'em. Next time be honest about why you are posting though!



Mutts and Moms

Paw Boutique

523 S Raymond Avenue

Pasadena, CA 91105

626.394.0946

Email: pawboutique@yahoo.com

www.muttsandmoms.org
stephanie
2007-10-21 23:22:56 UTC
I'm gonna comment anyway,



I didn't hear about it either until i came here online. (that was Thursday).
2007-10-16 13:07:08 UTC
P.O. Box 50393 · Pasadena, CA 91115 --- found it on the web good luck
Knome Lover
2007-10-16 12:34:13 UTC
didn't this question just get deleted?

do you live in the LA area...that is where they are
mzgiglz13
2007-10-18 14:23:24 UTC
muttsandmoms.org


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