Question:
Are pit bulls naturally aggressive or do their owners train them to be agressive and killers?
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2010-03-05 11:12:55 UTC
BISHOPVILLE -- A Lee County woman who was helping care for her nephew's pit bull died Thursday after she was mauled while trying to beat the dog off of her 71-year-old husband, county officials said.

Ethel Horton, 65, died and her husband, Jerry, was taken to the hospital, said Lee County Deputy Coroner Larry Logan.

Logan did not know Jerry Horton's condition, and a message left with the nursing supervisor at the hospital was not returned.

Logan said the dog was killed after the attack.
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/mar/05/woman-killed-by-pit-bull/
24 answers:
BYBs and Crazies rule DS
2010-03-05 11:21:53 UTC
Goodness, I wish I could live in the fairly tale land of so many other people.



Aggression CAN BE GENETIC. That's why responsible breeders go to great lengths to breed dogs of the proper temperament. If a puppy can be "really really sweet" just like mom, he could also be a vicious aggressive loon just like mom.



Just like a Border Collie with a strong herding desire will be more likely to have puppies with a strong herding desire.



Just like a Beagle with a strong scent tracking instinct is more likely to throw puppies with a strong scent tracking instinct.



Aggressive behaviour can be taught, but the genetic temperament has to be there. You beat dog A with a stick and he attacks you. You beat dog B with a stick and he runs away and hides. It's the genetic predisposition and the hard wiring that separates dogs A and B.



This isn't opinion, it's fact. It's not some twilight land where "It's all in how you raise them", no more than raising a Dalmatian a certain way will remove his spots.



++ When you read the article, the dog was chained and staked. That's a recipe for aggression.

They were also feeding other free roaming animals in the yard. Another recipe for aggression.



I'm going to guess that this dog was pretty neglected, was from a BYB borderline puppy mill, has horrid genetics, and has a horrid owner. All those things play a MAJOR role in this situation happening.
Lynette
2014-03-10 09:55:46 UTC
My opinion I think pit bulls are not born dangerous and really aggressive. The owner train them to be vicious towards another pit bull or another breed of dog and they do take that aggressiveness out on a human in a dangerous way. I think any do can be loving if they are with a very loving and warm environment. Any breed of dog can be vicious if they owner is abusing that animal. If another human go through many years of physical or mental abuse they will show many signs of anger and aggressive behavior or sometimes commit acts of violence towards other people, especially if they are raised in a home with domestic violence. The pit dog will be loving if the owner shows it love and train the dog the right way and not teaching it how to be violent and really aggressive towards people or other animals. The pit dog has a very lock jaw bit, but the owner train the dog to not let go once it gets a hold of something.
?
2016-12-08 22:39:43 UTC
How Aggressive Are Pit Bulls
?
2016-03-01 04:24:20 UTC
Jessie's answer is right on. Just a quick side note: No one brought up the point that dog/animal aggression is very different than human aggression. Based on my correspondence with state legislators regarding BSL, those who support it assume that if dog aggression is present, human aggression will follow, and those in power feel compelled to "do something". Additionally, the idea that temperament is dog-specific versus breed-specific is ignored. Edit to his wifey: Along with the APBT and the SBT, The American Staffordshire Terrier (AST) is the other breed that is considered a "pit bull".
Rogue Bullies
2010-03-05 11:22:19 UTC
The breed name is american pit bull terrier. Not "pit bull" is that is often a genetic term used in bite statistics for over 30 different breeds. Not very many people even know what a true APBT is. A lot of other breeds get blamed for being a "pit bull". You can't believe everything you hear on the news. Its all one big media hype.



True APBTs were suppose to be animal aggressive, but NEVER human aggressive. These dogs were developed to work very closely with humans in highly stressful and Intense situations. Any human aggressive APBT was culled from the breeding program as breeds could not have that in there lines.



Bad owner/genetics and bad breeding can make ANY dog aggressive no matter the breed.
skattered0077
2010-03-05 11:26:39 UTC
there are dog breeds that are bred for purposes...hunting, hearding, companionship, centry duties and so forth...



this does mean that if dogs are bred for a certain trait they will more often than not have that trait occur naturally...



are pittbulls naturally agressive, sometimes yes...this is dependant on many things, including genetics...



if the dog has parents that were bred for their aggressive qualities then there is a good chance that the puppies of these parents would also possess this trait...



HOWEVER...it is also possible in the right hands that this dog bred for aggression could be turned totally submissive and wellbehaved with the right training and obedience...



with this said when purchasing a dog you should buy only from a reputable breeder, not some guy who got two dogs and put them together so he could make some money from the puppies...



its sad what happened to these people and its things like this happening that give pittbulls as a breed such a bad name but a handful of dogs can not and should not cause an entire breed to be singled out as "dangerous"...
Shortcake
2010-03-09 10:42:51 UTC
They are not naturally agressive. Their owers are sleeze balls and make them aggressive! (Not all owners just the ones who believe their dog should be trained to fight and so forth...) I had a pitbull when I was little and have since had one. Its like any dog, they can be prevoked and have a bad day but you need to make sure that if you do have an aggressive dog, no matter what breed, then it needs to be leashed and highly watched.
2010-03-05 11:18:52 UTC
Pit bulls are not naturally aggressive and not all APBT attacks meant that the dog was trained to be this way genetics play a lot in this



I just Always find it odd that the APBT is singled out on here and if you look at the comments below the article the APBT had very few attacks compared to other breeds of dogs
Wolf Femme
2010-03-05 11:19:06 UTC
Pit Bulls are born terrier dogs.

Like any terrier they can be raised to encourage those terrier instincts.

Put the dog in the wrong hands while it's been encouraged for so many years - and something is bound to go wrong.



Of course, the breeding of the dog comes into play as well [as with all dogs].

Was the dog from a reputable breeder? Was the dog an "oops" litter? Was the dog from a BYB/Puppy Mill?

Were the parents temperament tested? Receive a CGC certification? Etc.



There's more to the dog's behavior than "was it raised mean or loving?"





ETA:

Note from the 'article':

-The dog was chained outside - likely meaning it wasn't socialized, wasn't exercised, and had pent up frustration.

-The dog was in an area with other dogs - it could have had to compete for food with the other dogs if they were allowed to roam and he wasn't, or if they could come to him, but he couldn't go to them.

-The dog could likely have been a part of a small-scale dog fighting group. It doesn't say anything about the condition of the dog[s], their behaviors along with the attacker's, etc.
Panda
2010-03-09 09:40:54 UTC
Pit bulls are working dogs and they only want to please their owners and if that means attacking people and other dogs then they will do it. Its all environmental for dogs. Negetive homes lead to negative dogs. I work with a girl that has like 5 and they are all mild manored and extremly goofy dogs.
Blarg
2010-03-05 17:18:30 UTC
Lots of people argue that rearing is all of a dogs behavior, while others argue that it's all genetics. In reality, both are true. Aggression is not defined as a temperament, or a state of being, is it a behavior. Acts such as herding, tracking, retrieving, hunting, and baiting are all to some extent aggressive behavior. Aggression does not mean that it will be harmful, as herding instincts show us. We bred dogs from wolves to take advantage of these traits because they aid us, therefore, to an extent all dogs bred for a any purpose other than being a companion, are bred to be aggressive. However, Chihuahuas and Maltese are often shown to exhibit aggressive behaviors because they are dogs and to dogs aggression is a form of communication. So, in essence, one can easily say that ALL dogs are potentially dangerous.



As far as "Pit Bulls" go, well. "Pit Bull" isn't a breed of a dog. It's a blanket term used to describe several breeds of dogs. Am Staffs, APBTs, Bull Terriers and any dog that exhibits the psychical characteristics of the above breeds. Because at least 25 breeds display these characteristics, the potential for incorrect breed identification is enormous. As a matter of fact, Golden Retrievers and Labradors have been euthanized for being "Pit Bulls" in areas where they are breed bans exist. In the opinions of many animal control enforcement agencies whether your dog is a "pit bull" or not is solely determined by the individual Animal Control Officer, who has no formal training in identifying breeds. When it comes to dog attacks, the breed is identified by the Animal Control, a vet, or the victim. Vets receive no training of breed IDing because they do not need it for their jobs. Victims are hardly a reliable source either. Because of this, is is also pretty easy to see the potential for "Pit Bull Maulings" in the news when in fact, the dog that attacked the person was of unknown origins.



In addition to this, mix breed dogs are at high risk for being called "Pit Bulls". Why? Well first most people have a misconception about what it means to be a mix breed dog. Mix breed means that over many generations many dogs of many different backgrounds have reproduced to create an animal who has an ancestry so well meshed that only DNA testing can shed any real light. For example:



http://stopbsl.com/bsloverview/impossibleid/



This link details what exactly defines a "Pit Bull" according to breed based laws. It also shows the owners dog, a mix breed commonly mistaken for a "Pit Bull". The dog gets two DNA tests. The problem with DNA testing is that there are between 400-800 breeds of dog. We have only found genetic tracers for around 100 breeds of dog. So, yes, even DNA only goes so far in this argument.



When I was little we had a Rottweiler. He was a sweet, gentle being. People say Rotties are born mean. Well it certainly is too bad that they can't see a difference between mean and protective. You see, one day my little brother Thomas wanted to go out and play(he was only three at the time). Our Rottweiler stood in front of the door and continually knocked Thomas over with his nose whenever he tried to leave. Thomas' father got upset and yanked the dog away to discover several rattlesnakes curled up right where Thomas would have stepped. A Rottweiler saved his life.



Those who say things like "When it comes to Pit Bull bans, if one jar of peanut butter had salmonella I ask for all the peanut butter to be recalled!" do not understand what responsible ownership is. Stony, our Rottie, was a great example of a well bred, well trained, well loved dog. For me to even imagine the police taking Stony away on the grounds that "all Rotties are mean" is horrifying. Are we as a society so far gone that we actually hold dogs liable for dog attacks? No... Behind every dog attack is a certain "breed" of owner. The kind that does no research on where to buy the pups, how to raise them, and what they need. Perhaps it's because he/she doesn't really care. Well I care. If it wasn't for a "vicious breed" my brother would be DEAD. That means something to me. It means something because the actions of bad owners makes all of us responsible owners look bad. That's a shame.
Baby Shes Country
2010-03-05 11:26:49 UTC
Sick & Tired of hearing about PITS. What about Dalmatians? The only dog I have ever gotten bit/attacked by is a fkn MIN PIN! But they are never talked about. I'm not saying every pit is not aggressive, bc every breed has a bad one in the bunch, but it's just overrated!!! It's the ignorant people who train them to be killers that gives the breed a bad rep. and the people who are inbreeding them to fight them. I hate people who fight pits, they really are loving animals if you TREAT THEM RIGHT. And for the record, I have 2 Am Staffs (DAD & SON) which are similar to pits, but they are recognized by the AKC. And they have NEVER bit anyone or attacked anything, and they come to our office everyday for the past 10 years. They have met white, black, hispanic, asian, infant, toddler, adult, and I could go on, and have NEVER been aggressive.
Allan T
2010-03-08 15:57:39 UTC
they are agressive killers and should not exist and anyone who owns one shopuld have to pay a fee to someone for when (not if) is bites someone and they have to go to hospital



and a lot of pit bull owners dont belive this. but its true.
Charles D
2010-03-09 08:47:34 UTC
I think they are trained to be aggresive. I have a friend that has a pit and he is gentle and

likes to play.
Holly
2010-03-05 11:18:31 UTC
No, pit bulls are NOT naturally aggressive towards humans. They do have some natural aggression towards other animals (As they were originally bred for fighting other animals.) but with socialization and training are great with other animals.

Pit's in the dog fighting world were actually destroyed(killed) if they showed aggression towards humans.

So no, they are not naturally human aggressive. The ones who are, are almost always victims for bad owners. ( BYB's, irresponsible or uneducated owners or psycho's who train them to be aggressive)



Also, many of the attacks you read about or hear about on the news were not actually pit bull attacks. Some reporters don't take the time to find out what breed it was, they just hear dog attack and assume it was a pit bull. Or if it was a similar "bully" breed(Such as the bullmastiff, presa canario etc) they just THINK it was a pit. Don't believe everything you hear on the news.
2010-03-05 11:22:25 UTC
No dog is born aggressive. It is all in how you raise/train them. If a dog is well socialized and given lots of love and exercise, they will be the best dog in the world. The less a dog is used to being around different people and animals, the less they know how to act in those situations. You can tell a lot about a person by the way their dog acts.
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2010-03-05 11:21:00 UTC
It's not born to attack. they are bought up that way. There could have been multiple reason this dog attacked. Maybe it was the actions of the person, maybe it was in fear of it's new environment, maybe it was depressed. who knows how these people were treating this dog at the time? Who knows why dogs do this.
2010-03-05 11:50:44 UTC
no the owner trains them to fight. I have a pit bull lab boxer mix and she is soo nice! people just judge pit bulls because there evil owners train them to act like that.
Harley Drive
2010-03-05 11:59:26 UTC
they have such strong jaws they do need to be aggressive, any "pit bull" or similar can kill a baby or small dog while just "playing " with it and it can crush your arm or hand or tear flesh off your leg or throat without any harmful "intent" its natural instinct is to seize prey or food and shake it to death, once they lock their jaws whether playing or not they are unwilling to let go
Dessy S
2010-03-05 11:17:36 UTC
You can't judge a dog by its breed!!! This is ridiculous. Although they might share same temperament dogs are different just like us humans. You can't say all Americans are fat, or all French are stupid! Everyone is different and we all know that.

Most of the time its all down to the stupid owners thanks to whom their reputation is so bad just like Staffordshire Bull terriers, Rottweilers and Dobermans!
BreCoBo
2010-03-05 12:25:20 UTC
pit bulls are naturally sweet dogs, that's why they are knicknamed the nanny. they are very obidient, which is also why they are amongst the most decorated military dogs. the problem is if they aren't trained properly, they can respond poorly to new situations, just like any dog
2016-09-19 05:24:09 UTC
This is puzzling to me too
?
2010-03-05 11:15:36 UTC
No animal and no person is 'born bad'.

It's all to do with environment and upbringing.

Pitbulls were bred to attack other dogs, and explicitly not their handlers, so attacking humans is not a natural trait for them.

However, they are bred to be aggressive dogs, and with weak and bad owners, this aggressive is not tamed, and so is directed towards other dogs and people.
GreyhoundAdopter
2010-03-05 12:17:02 UTC
This is so sad .... add another death to the ever growing list: :(



http://pitattacksbystate.blogspot.com/



For dogs that are not supposed to be people-aggressive, they kill more people than any other breed/type of dog. Say what you want, but these reports of death are not made up. These "family pets" kill & maul people.


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