Why do people on Y!A shout out BYB on every question involving dog breeding?

Question

My dog had a litter of pups just over 4 weeks ago. I asked 3 questions about dog breeding and almost (at least 80%) of questions were people accusing me of being a back yard breeder.

I just don't understand. Why do people assume that you let your dog breed for money or because you're to irresponsible or because it was an accident? I would never be so stupid as to allow my dog to get pregnant due to any of those reasons.

So please, enlighten me as to why you cry BYB on every question.

Answer 1

I think people jump to conclusions too quickly, I agree that backyard breeding is a terrible thing.



However, I think there are certain situations that CAN be considered BYBing, but there are other situations that aren't BYB, but some people might consider it to be that.



If the mating is a complete accident and completely unexpected, then I don't think it's fair to shout hate at somebody & tell them they're a BYB, because BYBs actually PLAN matings whereas people with accidental litters don't have any idea & had no plan set in place, so of course it's natural for them to come and ask questions.



I think; that if you're knowledgeable to a certain extent, with enough knowledge to know how to take care of the mother and the puppies properly, then of course - breed. As long as the dog is healthy & has had all of the necessary health tests needed, and also if the sire (male) has had all of the necessary health checks, too. It's also much better if both dogs are of a high quality for their breed & meet their breeds standard.



I don't believe in mixed-breeding dogs purposely, though. Anybody that breeds mixed breed dogs on purpose is really not thinking about much else other than money or just a cool looking dog.



Sorry for your bad experience on here, but not everybody is bad & if you read between the lines, everyone really is trying to help you. Most of the people on here are really friendly and will answer you question as best as they can. You also should be aware that everyone has their own opinions here & sometimes like to share it, but don't let it get at you - as we all have different opinions & see things differently. Don't lose faith in Yahoo Answers! It's a great little community of people, that are here to help! (There are a small handful of people that just want to rant - but the majority are here to help, as this is what Y!A is for, afterall :-)



Just take everything said, with a pinch of salt & try not to take it the wrong way. I know it can be difficult, but I'm sure you'd view the answers differently if you speaking to someone face-to-face, as you're aware - the internet isn't the best place for expressing emotion!



Like I said, don't feel put off. Everyone is pretty friendly, really.

Answer 2

I`m coming in a bit late on this question but thought i`d put my pennies worth in before it disappears.

A lot of people on here do not post enough facts for anyone to answer their question properly.

They just give bare facts and then get uptight when they don`t get a good positive response.

Many dopes who post on here so obviously do not have a clue about how to breed a dog and do it for no valid reason. It gets the backs up of many dog owners because of all the dogs and puppies dumped into rescue homes and the thousands that get euthanised every week. So possibly some good dog breeders get some negative comments due to not giving out enough information.

With dog breeding questions members need to know "why" the poster is breeding, have they had health checks done on the male and female who are to be bred from and are they excellent examples of the breed. With cross breed they need to know, why its being bred and for what purpose and also as with all breeding questions, have you got potential buyers lines up. Lack of details will make people assume they no nothing about how to breed a good dog and they will be labelled as back yarders. Although, in all reality, there are many very experienced dog breeders that breed wonderful dogs from their backyard, not all good breeders possess posh kennels. The best dog I have ever owned came from a breeder who bred his female dog and kept her and her pups in a clean and cosy shed in his backyard. Every care was lavished on the pups by the breeder. He only bred the once and I still keep in touch with him to this day. Each case should be judged on it`s merits. Jmo.



Add: As Lorraine points out. Really Experienced good breeders have no need, whatsoever to ask questions about breeding on somewhere like yahoo answers. They know their job. But serious new breeders may if they are lucky, find some good answers and help from the more experienced members on here. Everyone has to start somewhere don`t they? Sorting the wheat from the Chaff can be the difficult thing on the DS when details are left out.

It always puzzles me how anyone can really answer a question or help someone solve a dog problem with any real conviction by just giving advice over a forum. Most problems associated with dogs need to be seen and dealt with in the flesh (so to speak). And 9 times out of 10 its a handler problem rather than the dogs problem.

Sorry...got carried away there and deviated from the question. !

Answer 3

I totally agree its extremely frustrating when they start woth the byb crap. Everyone has to start somewhere as im sure they did once upon a time. Its not like there is a website where you can adopt a breeding mentor! You come on here to ask peoples opinions and personal experience and you get slated. These so called professional breeders say a byb does it for money. What do they do it for then as if its the love of the breed only like they say then why do they charge extraordinary amounts for their kc reg puppies why dont they charge an amount to break even if its not about the money. As it cant be to do with the fact that any old person can buy one as a professional breeder surely checks where theirr pups are going. Sorry for the rant but it annoys me aswel. A byb is a irresponsible breeder who dont give a dam about their *****.

Answer 4

I know it must be frustrating - but the reaction is fueled by a lot of bad dog-breeding practises going on... And because we love our dogs, a lot of people are enraged by this. But of course they can't tell the difference between genuine and back-yard, so they lump everyone in the same boat! Ignore the ignorant, and just go on loving and taking good care of your dog/pups.

Answer 5

Same with the Cat section - I've been horrified about the abuse given to anyone who dares to ask a question about mixed breed cats! Some of the Nazi attitudes to mixed breeds are quite disturbing, and it makes me wonder whether these people also have the same attitudes to mixed race people...

Answer 6

I heartily agree with you. Yes, some people are ignorant twits but like you, I ask questions on here hoping to get some insight from people with similar experiences. That rarely happens and I find myself so frustrated that people feel the need to either 1) comment on things of which they know nothing, 2) judge me for asking a question, and/or 3) act like they know all about my situation based on my isolated question and castigate my character.

(Just letting you know not all of us are like that...!)

Answer 7

A "BYB" is ANY small-scale breeder that does not follow proper breeding practices. If you have a bytch that "accidentally" gets knocked up, you are a BYB. If you are breeding mongrels on purpose, you are a BYB. If you are breeding dogs that are not registered, or do have titles (or points/legs toward them), or do not have ALL recommended health clearances for their breed, then you are a BYB. If your primary mission in breeding is profit or fun or to get pet puppies, then you are a BYB.



So... are both of the dogs registered champions of record with CHIC numbers where I can confirm their health status? Do you know your breed standard backward and forward? Do you have a *good* reason for breeding?



I'm sorry if your special-snowflake feelings were hurt, the truth is that NO ONE who knows what they are doing and is doing it right (which involves being involved in the 'dog world' through breed or training clubs and other forums to ask random/opinion questions about breeding) then you would not be asking breeding questions here.

Answer 8

BYB breeders do not just breed for money, or have "accidents". They also breed because people think the pups will be cute and want one. They do not do health or genetic testing to see if they are passing anything on in the pups. They think they know what they are doing so they do it and then come on here asking questions. Oh yeah...they have mentors and vets that could easily answer the question (not) but would rather ask on here.



Edit: Why do I get so many thumbs down for stating why people do BYB breeding. I do not agree with it at all. I am explaining to the poster that he/she is a BYB.

Answer 9

I agree, dog section is full of the most rudest people on all of YA. Ignore those idiots, looking down on people because it makes them feel superior.

Answer 10

I didn't read your questions, but from what you say above, I assume your ***** was health tested prior to mating, and likewise your mother's dog has also been health tested, for whatever inherited conditions are relevant to your particular breed?

Obviously the fact your ***** was mated with your mum's dog is because he is an outstanding example of the breed in question, as you will be breeding to improve your breed, so you would have chosen to put him to your equally outstanding ***** - how convenient he belongs to your mother!!

I'm sure you had homes for the pups before the mating, the queue would have been a long one, so you would not have needed to advertise?

And the puppies are lucky that a responsible breeder such as yourself will at any point in the pups life take it back if the new owner was unable to keep him or her, so none of these fabulous dogs will ever end up in a rescue - right?

No problem at all then.

Answer 11

I see you've given TD's galore to the majority of proper members on this site of which those responses I completely agree with.

If you had a question deleted recently it must have been a rant just like this 1.....

Those agreeing with you are probably BYB's or little kids trying to suck up for a BA.



Members flood this forum with how do I or what can I do for their pregnant or very sick dog daily.

Those that truly have mentors or on call vets have no need or time to post here with such rubbish.

We know what we're doing & who to call & when to take our dog/s to the vet.



Asking the questions you claim to have asked are considered senseless chat & every proper member that assumed you to be a BYB had/has a 99% reason to think so.

Answer 12

Because a person who is breeding should know what they're doing and have a breed mentor*or have common sense to ask a vet if they're concerned about their pregnant dog's health/well being*, so they should not have to come on here and ask strangers questions that have to do with breeding. If they have to ask on here, they shouldn't be breeding.



If you're a responsible owner, accidental breedings can be prevented-if you're a responsible owner, if your dog gets pregnant by accident, you'd have an emergency spay done-especially if you don't know what you're doing.



*I haven't seen your other questions, so I'm not sure what you asked. Some people can be overly sensitive though and make judgement without any base for it, they jump to "BYB" for no reason. An example would be when I was saying I wanted to keep my future male dog intact-someone accused me of wanting to be a BYB for it, even though I didn't mention, at all, that I was planning on using him as a stud-which I wouldn't be. *

Answer 13

Well, you seem to be be confused about what it means to be a Backyard Breeder.



In simple terms - if you're asking here, you're a BYB. Reputable breeders and responsible owners go through the proper channels to learn how to breed properly.

They do not come to Y!A to take advice from nameless, faceless strangers who by all rights could give advice solely to kill your dog.





Have a question about breeding? Ask your breed mentor.

Have a question about health of your pregnant b|tch? There's a vet for that.

Answer 14

If you have to ask a breeding question here.. then you ARE a back yard breeder.





Any reputable breeder would be asking their mentor, vet, reproduction specialist, or their network of collegues that they met thru the show ring..







It does not matter what your excuses are for breeding. Point is, you risk your PET'S life to create more PET quality animals. You did not show the dogs, get proper health tests, nor did you breed to produce quality animals. You bred to produce nothing more than the same quality of PETS that can be found in a shelter or rescue. Each and every puppy you produced is a dog dead in a shelter.















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Clearly, you made new accounts so that you can thumbs down all the answers that you did not like.

Answer 15

We are not people that BAAHHHH and follow the other sheep. We are people that adopt the dogs that people dump because they got them from a BYB without knowing anything about what it takes to raise a dog. And are getting tired of seeing thousands of dogs at the pound and on craigslist. And we know the facts about how many dogs and cats are put to sleep every single day.



P.S. Some of these answerers are 18 (clair) and under, so I would never take random advice. I would take it as a starting point for my own research if anything.

Answer 16

The facts and figures about having just one litter would blow your mind. There are kind and caring owners who desperately want their delightful dog to have a litter of puppies and they have homes for them all. These kind and caring owners do home checks and they think that this is the end of their obligations. Unfortunately these puppies go on to produce puppies. In the interim some of them are abused and left alone to suffer. Lots of them are used as breeding machines to produce several litters of puppies.



At the end of the day, one litter of puppies produces thousands of puppies which are ultimately euthanized. Please before you endanger your dog by mating her again; visit a rescue home where they have no choice other than to kill healthy dogs.

Answer 17

Without bothering to go and find your other question then I don't know what you asked... but GOOD breeders just don't come on here asking anything. Fact.



Backyard breeding isn't only about people breeding for money or through accidental matings... it is anyone that doesn't prove their dog by at least having a good judge, breed specialist give their opinion, and anyone who does not health screen their dog and research all the dogs sire and dam lines. ie.. making sure that g.parents and g.g.parents were sound. It is also about people not understanding dog conformation and what faults can make health issues when put together.



A good breeder looking for a sire for their b*tch can travel continents if they find the dog they want.



But as said .... I didn't see your original question.

Answer 18

Because if you are on here asking questions about breeding, then you shouldn't be breeding dogs, so thats why you are thought as a BYB.

Answer 19

It's mainly out of frustration that your dog isn't spayed. There are so many unwanted puppies already. A responsible owner that doesn't want to breed their dog should have the dog spayed. Accidents happen but they only happen if dogs aren't spayed or neutered.

Answer 20

My brain cells are intact thank you, so you intend to keep the pups out of love, you are going to sell them and perhaps get mom spayed or breed again.?

I know the answers already so I would class you as a BYB simply you have bred for money. Wonder how many pups will get good owners and if the mom gets spayed. You are trying to justify yourself so save it as only licensed breeders who get unoffical visits should breed superior dogs bet you passed with flying colours.

Meant to add any breeder who knows what they are doing would not dream of posting on Q & A.

Answer 21

Being a Backyard Breeder doesn't mean you breed for money.



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And, people shout out 'BYB' because if you have to come to Y!A to ask a question regarding dog breeding, chances are you don't have a breeding mentor (which if you were breeding responsibly you would), you're inexperienced, and chances are if you have to come to Y!A to ask a question regarding breeding, you haven't done your share or research and shouldn't be breeding at all.

Answer 22

Yahoo answers Dog Section, where brain cells go to die. Someone sent me that the other day and its true.

Everyone screams BYB in here because 98% of all people in here are simply sheep who "BAAHH" follow each other to slaughter and have nothing intelligent to say that is not based on emotions.

Answer 23

Why do people with such fragile egos ask emotionally-charged questions on public access websites?

Answer 24

You didn't ask a question on breeding. I became your contact briefly just to check.



If you did ask this and deleted it, it's because YOU framed the question poorly. Plus, a responsible breeder would not have to cry over to Yahoo for help. They would already know exactly what to do.



@Scarred Decoy ~ When you answer like you answered this question, I almost want to remove the block - your answer was damn good. Just sayin'.