Question:
Why do people have problems with others who want to breed there mutts?
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:43:33 UTC
ok i get that there are alot of mutts in the world but thats not my problem is it? no.
i love my dog to death and i have a bunch of family members and friends who want puppies.
so they would all go to good homes.
wwe bred our old dog a couple years ago and all the puppies went to good homes.
if you love your dog and are sure the puppies go to good homes why is it such a terrible thing to want to breed?
34 answers:
cm30324
2010-10-18 11:52:51 UTC
Because it takes a unselfish person to think beyond themselves and see the bigger pictures of pet overpopulation. Pet over population kills millions of adoptable pets as well as breeds pet abuse and neglect. It cost taxpayers money to kill the animals, it takes tax money to run the agencies.



It is your problem, however you will not open your eyes to it or be conscious to it and that is a personal problem that can not assist you with.
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:58:44 UTC
We have a problem with it because your are bringing more unwanted mutts into this world. Yes a lot of family's would rather have a cute little puppy, then a fully grown unwanted dog at a shelter. But it don't make it right to bring another mutt into the world. If you bred from a mutt, it would for fill no purpose... so why do it ? Unless you want money. Your dog is not a cash point. That's just wrong.
cjrossi
2010-10-21 10:02:49 UTC
go to petfinder.com



type in your city, and one of the breeds that is in your dog



see the number of unadopted dogs... just of that breed mix ... just in your area.



see the pictures of these dogs, read their little bios



why do you want to cost 6-10 of these dogs THEIR chance at finding good homes, by flooding an already saturated, flooded market with yet another litter?



you seem to understand exactly what the problem is - that there are alot of mutts in the world - and your attitude is "thats not my problem is it? No"



So ... you don't really love your DOG as much as you think you do. You love having a pet that loves you unconditionally, oblivious to how you could give a shiz about dogkind.



Seems like the equivalent of marrying an African American, and saying that racism isn't your problem.
anonymous
2010-10-18 12:02:59 UTC
Because, mutts are euthanized EVERYDAY. Are you sure they are going to good homes? How do you know the people aren't lying to you, and when they get home with the puppy they abuse it or a few days later bring it to a shelter? How do you know? Are you sure those puppies are in good homes? How do you know they aren't locked outside with no shelter, food, or water? How do you know they aren't abused? How do you know they aren't dead?? Your friends and family can get a dog from a shelter! Those dogs need homes too. "that's not my problem, is it?" Yes, it IS your problem.



"i love my dog to death and i have a bunch of family members and friends who want puppies."

- So, you're just going to keep breeding your dog again and again just because your family members and friends want puppies? You know what, your family and friends could go right to a shelter and save a dogs life!



"if you love your dog and are sure the puppies go to good homes why is it such a terrible thing to want to breed?"

-Because you aren't actually sure that they are going to good home, you just think they are!
Kathleen
2010-10-18 12:08:03 UTC
I have a problem with:



There are tons of dogs and puppies in shelters who are homeless.



People who DON'T do the proper health-testing and certifications on their dogs before they breed them. Having a dog that has a genetic defect like hip dysplasia is awful. Having a dog that has a really poor temperament is insufferable. Having a dog with substandard health that could have been prevented by certifying the parents is inexcusable. There are many dogs out there that should not be bred. There are many dogs out there who are too young to be bred.



I have a problem with people who breed without knowledge. I have a problem with people who don't do their research. I have a problem with ignorance and stupidity because they're not the ones who pay for their mistakes, the dogs and puppies do as well as the unsuspecting people who buy them.
pruin1
2010-10-18 12:03:46 UTC
How do you know that those puppies didnt have more puppies...then those puppies had more puppies...and why would you risk your dogs health to give your friends and families puppies?



And your comment of "thats not my problem is it?" is exactly whats wrong with the world today...selfish people.



500, 000 dogs were put down In California alone last year...and you can go to bed at night knowing that you contributed by ensuring that you created more mutts rather then having your friends and family members adopt. Congrats! :)



ADD: Since you obviously arent aresponsible breeder you dont love your dog to death but you may cause her death by not knowing what you are doing.
Erica - }x{R.I.P. Baby Butterfly}x{
2010-10-18 12:02:58 UTC
I'll try and make this simple, k?

http://www.petfinder.com/pet-search?animal_type=Dog&pet_breed=&location=43338&distance=100

^^^That is a link to show the 5,408 dogs in my area that are considered. That's FIVE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHT dogs and puppies that already exist and NEED homes, because someone "just wanted to breed their mutts" because "they love their dog soooo much", and because they had "a bunch of good homes lined up". Point being, there's NO guarantee what'll happen to that pup once you let it go to that "good home". And that's not everywhere, THOSE results are just within 100 miles of where I live, (Mount Gilead, OH).



Also, let's say your dog has 8 puppies that survived and are going to "good homes". We'll say that 3 of them are females. One of them, thankfully is spayed. The other two are allowed to breed based on the same mind set you have. They have 8 each, with 6 females. Two are spayed, four are allowed to have puppies, and so on and so forth. Those 2 females you bred that went to "good homes" that had puppies, very quickly turned into well over 20 dogs, very quickly. That's over TWENTY homes that COULD have saved one of the THOUSANDS of dogs sitting in shelters right now. And you don't see a problem here?? While your pups may be going to good homes, a shelter dog is dying because there's not a home available for it. And you don't see a problem with that???



"If you love your dog"... I'm not even gonna bother quoting the rest of that. IF YOU LOVE YOUR DOG, you don't put her at risk of DYING during pregnancy and labor. You don't put her at risk for illnesses like Pyometra which can be FATAL, and can become fatal QUICKLY. You don't put her at risk for diseases like Mastitis, which is incredibly painful, and can also become FATAL. If you love your dog, and don't know what you're doing in terms of breeding, YOU HAVE HER SPAYED. Period.
Pom♥Mom Spay and Neuter
2010-10-18 11:49:08 UTC
I have a problem with most people who want to breed....not just mutts. Most people do not want to take the time and they do not have the money to properly breed. Most dogs are the product of ill breeding and have a lot of medical issues, which is passed on to the pups and in turn, becomes very expensive and heartbreaking for the owner. It's a vicious cycle.
?
2010-10-18 11:48:08 UTC
Because you're ignorant and socially blind if you can't see the wider impact.



Say your dog has five puppies who are lucky enough to find homes. Those homes probably won't be for life anyway- BYB puppies are often bought impulsively without an idea of the future, and end up in shelters, or being put to sleep because of 'behavioural problems' or genetic health issues because the owner didn't actually test the parents. ANYWAY. Those puppies have decent homes for now. But that means five puppies (or dogs- what is the deal with puppies? Dogs are JUST as important as puppies!) in a shelter local to you haven't found a home. Five puppies/dogs that already existed are rotting in shelters, or nearing their death day, because of YOUR actions.
Reality Check
2010-10-18 11:51:25 UTC
There are thousands of people with your same mind set..breeding their dogs to pass on what ever 'cuteness" they have along with any other genetic defeat that may be lurching. The shelters are full of cute little extentions of someones pet that just "had" to be past on. You found home for all the pups? Good for you, hopefully they'll be forever homes and not dumped after they aren't cute anymore.

Mutt or pure bred.. no dog should be bred just for the sake of breeding.

loving your dog to death is not a good enough reason to pass on their lines...
Pit Bulls are angels in their earth form
2010-10-18 11:48:20 UTC
even though the puppies would be going to good homes at first, you don't know what will happen to them later on. yes it would be your problem because you are contributing to the fact that there are so many and you become part of the source of the problem. a lot of people say they want puppies until they get them and its all work. same thing happens with people who get puppies as Christmas presents.the novelty wears off very quickly. if they want to be responsible and get a puppy that is a mutt, then they should go adopt one from a shelter. if you love your dog that much then you would refuse to breed and get them spayed and neutered.
Abigail
2010-10-18 11:58:27 UTC
I used to think the same as I loved my two dogs so much. I then went to a shelter where the amount of dogs being euthanised as they did not have a 'mom or dad' to give them a home was heartbreaking. Adopting from shelters is giving a life another chance when breeding is adding to numbers and taking homes from potential deserving pets. I had my dogs both 'done' after seeing these shelters and their dogs.
mauveme49
2010-10-18 12:24:56 UTC
If your friends want puppies let them go to the shelters. Why let these dogs die just so you can breed your dog for your friends?? And that is why you shouldn't breed.. You are responsible for the same number of deaths to those dogs as the amount of puppies you give to friends.

Is that terrible enough.????????????
Rayven ~ SCAdian girl
2010-10-18 11:47:26 UTC
You mean besides the fact that YOU don't a clue what you are doing? So you got lucky last time and the ***** and her pups survived AND no pups developed genetic issues. What happens this time around will not be the same thing.



What if she dies? Still going to be ok with the fact you put her life at risk just so your cheap friends and family could have pups?



Whats stopping them from going to a good breeder or going to the shelter in the case of wanting a mutt pup?



You want to breed your mutt? fine go right ahead don't expect US however to help you do it. guess what? google is rife with breeding websites.
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:54:14 UTC
their, there and they're



They have issues with uneducated people producing puppies for the next generation of fodder for the euthanization chamber at their local shelter. They're sick of killing dogs there. Most dogs who land in shelters were once some IDIOT backyard breeder's idea of a "good home".



Sure, the uneducated have a right to breed (both dogs and children) - however, society frowns on it.



It's really difficult to take a post like this seriously.
Nekkid Truth!
2010-10-18 11:46:28 UTC
there are thousands of mutts in shelters.



if you breed your mutt.. yes, that is your problem, because you'd be contributing to it. Every home you find for a puppy is a home a shelter dog could have had.



All of those friends and family that want puppies can go ADOPT one. There's absolutly no reason to risk your dog's life for mongrel pups that can easily be found in any shelter.



Yes it is terrible to want to breed.
?
2010-10-19 08:22:25 UTC
because no good breeder would mix 2 dogs because there is no value in mutts, only pure breds
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:57:59 UTC
Oh so because you love your dog to death you are "allowed" to breed it? Ouch. How old are you? Like 12? You say you love dogs but you have already killed 3-7 dogs in shelters. (!?!?!)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l26IDg3JZI0



Every dog/ puppy that is bought from a backyard breeder (YOU), one is killed in a shelter. If you had of adopted or fostered dogs from a shelter and sold them to loving owners you would save lives and get lots of dogs in the meantime. But no, you want to force your ***** to squeeze cute wittle mutty puppies out of it's non-genetic-tested belly. So, well done kiddo, that is what you call one big dog lover.
ms manners
2010-10-18 11:54:28 UTC
"All the puppies went to good homes."



What about THEIR puppies? Did you neuter the puppies before you gave them away?

ONE dog can eventually be responsible for thousands of poorly bred dogs, and at some point your irresponsibility becomes MY problem.



MY taxes go to pay to have stray and unwanted dogs picked up, housed and eventually put down.



Obviously your family members dont care about the dogs breeding.....why wouldnt they just go and adopt an already existing puppy from a rescue or shelter?
KHAAAAN!
2010-10-18 11:55:22 UTC
Are you in contact with each and every single owner of your past puppies? Do all of them still have their puppy? Are their puppies well cared for and trained? If you answer "no" to any of those then you cannot guarantee good homes to any puppy, past or future, and should not breed for that reason alone. 3 out of 4 dogs wind up homeless, abused, neglected, in shelters, or dead long before they hit old age. Breeding without stringent home checks and strict, enforced contracts that require them to return the dog to you at any point in its life if they can't keep it (enforcing large financial penalties for failure to spay/neuter and for rehoming without your consent) guarantees that at least some of those puppies will be dumped at shelters eventually, or abused, or neglected. This is a fact. Your friends and family can pinky swear all they want, but most of those shelter dogs came from the same kind of people who wanted a puppy so very bad, and wanted that dog forever and ever.



Mutts are euthanized every day in shelters. Is it your problem? No, but you'll only contribute to it by breeding. If even one of your pups winds up in a shelter or abandoned then you're only part of the problem.



What are your dogs' OFA, CERF, and bloodwork results for liver and thyroid? Has a specialist given you a perfect bill of health for their hearts? If not, you have no business breeding. What about genetic health testing? Everything I've listed checks for things that are not immediately apparent and often are missed on a routine veterinary exam. Your vet saying "yep, they're healthy" is not good enough for breeding. Pumping out even more questionably bred puppies of questionable health from parents that were never properly health checked contributes to the problem, believe me.



Breeding mutts is irresponsible. Breeding badly bred purebreds is irresponsible. Breeding for ANY reason other than to produce performance working dogs with proven working drives and show/conformation standards to ensure breeds don't disappear completely and can still do what they were bred to do is irresponsible. While I agree that the shelter overpopulation isn't my problem, I'm not about to add to it by breeding my mutt, adorable though he may be.



There's more to the problem than "I have homes so what's the big deal?" The fact is you underestimate how obscenely ill-prepared and irresponsible even our own family and friends can be. You underestimate just how many people get a puppy because it sounds like a good idea but honestly think they come knowing how to poop outside and how to sit on command. You'd be surprised how many people give a 6 month old dog the boot because they can't or won't train it because they didn't realize it was that much work.



Furthermore, you clearly don't understand basic genetics. I get the impression you're one of those "my dog is sweet and I want to pass on her good genes" breeders. You breed with no regard or knowledge to recessive health defects or how the pups will also inherit traits from the stud dog. This is why it's exceedingly important to get proper health clearances and have both dogs pass a proper temperament test administered by a professional. Failure to do so means you only contribute to the problem, whether you want to admit it or not. By ensuring the health of your dogs through proper temperament and health testing and doing very strict, rigorous home checks, you greatly minimize and even eliminate the chance of those pups winding up anywhere BUT a permanent, happy home. I don't care if your dog is a mutt or not, but I do care about your assumption that because somebody promises they can care for a dog that that means they actually will.



[Add] You'll further directly (yes, directly) contribute to the shelter problem when somebody stupidly lets THEIR mutt that they got from you breed and produce more puppies. You have no idea if those pups will wind up in good homes or not, nor do you have any say in the matter, but it will still ultimately be because of you.



[Add] Oh yeah, and also check out the pet section of your local Craigslist. Look how many "free to good home" or "needs new home for small fee" dogs -especially puppies-are there. I live in a rural area and at least once a day (usually several ads a day) there's a "I got a puppy last night/two weeks ago/a month ago and the landlord found out/dog requires training/i didn't know my dog-aggressive breed would be aggressive with the puppy" crap. Guess what, each of those puppies "went to good homes" only to wind up on Craigslist a few days or weeks or months later.
?
2010-10-18 11:46:09 UTC
Do you know how many mutts are euthanized on a daily fcking basis because of people like you? A lot.



There's NO reason to breed mutts. Tell your friends and family members to go to a shelter or rescue if they want one.
anonymous
2010-10-18 17:22:45 UTC
If you love your dog, and want to breed, are you prepared to do it right? I'm assuming you don't think you're going to get money from the pups - after all, the only "street value" they'll have is if they are a breed that can be used for fighting - or used for bait for fighting dogs. Everyone else will want their mutt to be free. So you have homes lined up and you aren't going to charge for the pups. Are you financially in a position to pay the normal, basic costs?



First of all, the pregnancy, as in a human, really takes it out on the Mama. You need to get her really good puppy food - something that will actually boost her immune system, and improve her health - not the regular grocery store cheapo brand. She needs to be on that food for the pregnancy and for probably 2 months after the pregnancy. Make sure all of her shots are up to date ahead of time, because some things you can't administer to a nursing Mom. Make sure she's dewormed. For some reason even a dog who doesn't usually "have" round worms will give them to her nursing pups. They must lie dormant or something.



Do you have a good, safe, warm place for her to have her pups and to raise them away from family hubbub? Even if you haven't tested her for any genetic problems before breeding her, you should at least get an x-ray to know how many pups to expect and if any are in the wrong position and will cause problems. Then, of course, the birthing is really gross - be prepared to ruin any bedding you have. Mom might continue to drip really gross stuff for weeks after the birth - be prepared to ruin any bedding you provide after you throw out the bedding that was there when the pups were born. Then don't let her have the pups alone. Are you in the position to be with her night and day when her time is close? (You can do this in shifts if your family is big enough, but you all need to know what you are looking for.) I've had foster Moms giving birth before and it's not unusual for pups to get stuck. I've had them come out feet first and since they aren't made to come out that way, it's incredibly difficult for Mom to birth them - and painful. I've had pups get stuck in the birth canal. I almost lost a Mom, did lose her pup, when that happened. I have teeth marks in the whelping bed from where the sweet heart bit in because of her pain.



I've had one Mom who had no milk - and lost the entire litter before I realized what was happening. (THAT will never happen again.) I had another Mom who developed mastitis. Her pups had to be fed every few hours by bottle. I had to take time off work for weeks until I could hire someone to come and feed the pups while I was gone. I didn't get much sleep, believe me. Then of course there's the cost of the bottles, puppy milk, etc. There was the cost of the vet bills from the emergency C-section. There was the cost of the vet bills from the mastitis.



When the pups were old enough, they were dewormed. And then they also got their first immunizations. When they were 8 weeks old and weighed at least 2 lbs. they were spayed/neutered and microchipped. They were dewormed again. I am fortunate because eventually as our foster program developed the Humane Society began paying the vet bills, etc. (The first few fosters I paid for everything. I've been doing this since 1993.)



And because the Humane Society puts it in their contract, if for any reason one of the pups we allowed to come into the world needs rehomed, they come back to the H.S. You would have to provide that responsibility yourself. We thought we had good homes for every one of them when we placed them. Over the years things happen and several have come back. Are you prepared to house any returns until you can rehome them? See, that's what someone who loves their dog does when they decide to breed. That's the MINIMUM that someone who loves their dog does when they decide to breed. And quite frankly most people who breed their cross breeds aren't responsible enough to do all that, nor do they have the knowledge to do it.



Forgetting the overpopulation, forgetting that you are a member of a society and what you do matters, just concentrating on your one dog - it's still a terrible idea to want to breed.
•Poppy•
2010-10-18 11:48:22 UTC
"but that's not my problem is it?"



--how old are you? 10? Any sane adult can see that this is the ROOT of the problem -- people disconnecting themselves from it, believing they have no impact, when in fact they DO, and are responsible for puppies in shelters.



Do you know what happened to the pups you sold? Do you know if they're in the same homes, or in different homes, or in no homes at all? Are they treated well, or abused? Have they been bred themselves? Have they been overbred? Are they DEAD?



Please stop playing God and realize that your actions DO impact the world.
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:48:08 UTC
BECAUSE DO KNOW THAT THE PERSON YOU ARE GIVING YOUR DOG TO IS GOING TO MAKE A LIFELONG COMMITMENT. PEOPLE CAN GET GREAT DOGS FROM A SHELTER TOO. THEY DONT NEED TO BE BRED. I JUST WISH THAT EVERY DOG SHELTER IS A NO KILL SHELTER BUT THEY ARE NOT AND PLENTY OF DOGS ARE PUT TO SLEEP EVERYDAY BECAUSE OF THE OVER POPULATING...

WOULD YOU LIKE TO THINK OF YOURSELF AS ADDING TO THAT PROBLEM.
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:47:49 UTC
"ok i get that there are alot of mutts in the world but thats not my problem is it?"



If you are breeding yet more, then you are contributing the problem.

If your family want a cute puppy, tell them to go to the rescue shelter and get one that is in there waiting to be adopted.
keezy
2010-10-18 11:56:07 UTC
I have a dog from Championship lines that had proven herself in multiple venues of dog competition, and through friends and my dog's breeder have access to a wealth of knowledge and experience, not to mention that I have attended seminars on dog breeding, genetics, nutrition etc.

I WOULD NOT RISK MY DOGS LIFE BY BREEDING HER even though she would have excellent puppies.

Some of us are just smart enough to know what the real risks are.
Aphrodite ☼
2010-10-18 12:15:04 UTC
You have terrible logic.

So if your family members and friends thought you and your brother would make cute babies, would you do it for them because you knew the spawn of incest would end up in good homes?

I mean your family loves you and they have good homes, I guess it wouldn't be terrible for you to have a baby with one of your family members either.



You are assuming the puppies went to good homes. You have no idea what happened to them all. You also have no idea if those people ended up breeding those dogs too and you have no idea what became of those puppies and so on and so forth. People like you are adding to the pet population issue because you think what you are doing is innocent...
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:53:04 UTC
*Face Palm*

Its not your problem? but yet you want to add to the problem by making more dogs. Wow your logic is so smart!



BTW 80% of all dogs in shelters are mixed breeds.





Oh Papsett, I watched the The Truth About Euthanasia video and it made me cry. Thank you for sharing it though.
anonymous
2010-10-18 11:57:53 UTC
No just dont keep breeding ane keep breeding for years and years and never find good homes and just give them away and all. Dont be a puppy mill and if all the pups are going to good homes it is good that you are helping people out who are wanting a dog like yours! Its a good thing not bad :)!
~PapSett~
2010-10-18 11:55:19 UTC
http://www.eatveg.com/deathcamp.htm



http://www.forgottencats.org/images/euthanasia.jpg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emGZBLVJmGI



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vCQ0ZmUVKQ



http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/Dogs%20Images/Dogs%20that%20don%27t%20make%20it.jpg



http://www.maverickcoaching.org/forum/the-dog-food-conspiracy/index.files/euthanized-dogs.gif



Need more reasons?



You are contributing to this with every mutt you bring into this world. You say they got 'good homes', but how many of your puppies were bred indiscriminately, adding even more to the problem?



The over population problem belongs to each and every one of us who love dogs. I will spend the rest of my life fighting for these innocent animals whose only crime was being born.
?
2010-10-18 11:45:51 UTC
what are you getting out of breeding him? will you keep the puppies? how do you know they live good in their home?



some people are just sick



mutts have problems, good breeders try to be selective and breed dogs without illness, mutts are mutts
Thorhalla
2010-10-18 11:51:31 UTC
So instead of your friends and family taking in dogs from shelters who already exist and who need homes you brought more into the world ensuring that the dogs in the shelters got put "to sleep" because your friends and family members already had dogs.



How can you not see the problem here?
anonymous
2010-10-18 14:24:05 UTC
Ok
ali03
2010-10-18 12:06:31 UTC
i don't think that it is bad because they are going to good homes and it not like the dogs that go get bred again.


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